Posted on 10/28/2009 8:32:21 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Does HIV mean certain death?
In the quarter century since the world was introduced to the idea that a new sexually transmitted virus was the cause of Aids, HIV has been generally regarded as one of the biggest killers of our time. HIV/Aids has not been the mass disease in Britain that people were led to believe in the 1980s, but the death toll from immune deficiency diseases ascribed to HIV in Africa has been staggering. The scale of death there is an ongoing tragedy that tests the moral resolve of the rich world. How much do we care? Enough to ask hard questions about it? Enough to challenge the orthodoxy about the treatment, diagnosis and even the causes of Aids?
Anyone who attempts to do so soon realises the limits of acceptable debate. The HIV/Aids industry has long had the characteristics of a religion, but increasingly it is being revealed as a religion that has lost its way. Instead of fulfilling the legitimate purpose of inspiring charitable actions towards the millions in need, its most vocal representatives have become increasingly absorbed in denouncing ‘heresies’. It seems their purpose is not so much to cure, but to close down debate.
A scientist, activist or politician who so much as questions the orthodoxy is swiftly labelled a fool; or worse, someone responsible for the deaths of thousands, even millions, around the world. Any suggestion that there might be more to the disease than simply HIV, particularly in Africa, was to risk, and increasingly to guarantee, swift denunciation as a ‘denialist’. Once labelled in this way, the miscreant is considered beyond the pale of civilised society and scientific discourse. He is an idiot who can have his papers withdrawn, his funding cut off, and his contracts terminated. There have even been calls for denialists to be thrown in prison. This fervent self-righteousness, and the fear which accompanies it, has stifled scientific debate about Aids for years.
It is against this backdrop that Brent Leung, a young filmmaker, has released House of Numbers, a 90-minute documentary that presents such a strong and clear challenge to the orthodoxy that it demands our attention. It has picked up awards at five American film festivals, yet this acclaim followed a comprehensive trashing in sections of the mainstream media once the charge of ‘denialist’ was raised. It deserves to find a place in a wider scientific debate about Aids, rather than being lazily dismissed as a contribution to so-called ‘denialism’.
Part of its power lies in the fact that it shows the lack of consensus about Aids and HIV. The founding fathers of the Aids-HIV link are interviewed, and shown to be dramatically at odds with one another, even over basic questions such as how to validate a diagnosis of HIV infection. Many of these leading figures tell us that infection with HIV means certain death: that once someone is infected through a single act of intercourse or a dirty needle, their immune cells are gradually killed off until they become defenceless against a wide range of conditions, eventually dying of full-blown Aids.
But this is dramatically challenged by Professor Luc Montagnier, awarded the Nobel Prize last year for discovering what came to be known as HIV. Attempting to counter years of doom-laden interpretations of his team’s findings, he tells Leung that a healthy immune system can quickly overcome the virus. His exchange with his interviewer is worth repeating here.
‘We can be exposed to HIV many times without being chronically infected. Our immune system will get rid of the virus within a few weeks, if you have a good immune system,’ the scientist says. Leung responds: ‘If you take a poor African who’s been infected and you build up their immune system, is it possible for them to also naturally get rid of it?’ Nodding, Montagnier replies, ‘I would think so.’ Then: ‘It’s important knowledge which is completely neglected. People always think of drugs and vaccine.’ Leung remarks that there is no money in nutrition. ‘There’s no profit, yes,’ replies Montagnier.
When it comes to Aids, people also think in terms of statistics. The film takes its title from James Chin, former head of the World Health Organisations’s global HIV statistics unit, who has been arguing for years that the United Nations figures have been inflated. Two years ago, the UN quietly admitted that this was indeed the case: Aids infections had peaked globally in 1998 and deaths peaked in 2005. At the time, Chin’s verdict was that ‘It’s getting closer to what it ought to be, but it’s still high. It seemed to me that that high-rise house of numbers had to crumble.’ He estimates the total number of Aids cases at between 20 to 30 million — while the advocacy agency UNAIDS has claimed 42 million.
Many of the scientists interviewed — as I was — in House of Numbers have declared themselves opposed to the film. They did this without seeing it, on the basis of a trailer that made it clear Leung was not confining his narrative to the Aids orthodoxy as they had expected. Earlier this month, organisers of the Raindance film festival in London received floods of legal threats, emails, and hate ‘tweets’ opposing the documentary even being shown. Similar, though happily unsuccessful, efforts were made to have the film withdrawn from last month’s Cambridge film festival.
I have much experience of being on the receiving end of the heretic hunt. As medical correspondent of the Sunday Times in the late 1980s, I reported Aids conventionally myself. I remember the missionary zeal with which I came back from the 1987 Global Conference on Aids in Washington. Aids reporting seemed more than a job; we actually had a chance to help save lives by warning that this deadly virus was spreading surreptitiously, gradually destroying the immune system of those infected, putting all sexually active people at risk.
On returning to the paper as science correspondent in 1991 after a two-year gap, however, it was becoming clear that the early predictions of spread were not proving accurate. Aids was remaining confined to groups with specific risks in their lives, including drug abuse, promiscuous anal sex and multiple transfusions. I was sent to report from several African countries in an investigation lasting several weeks. In essence, I found that misdiagnosis was causing enormous distress, misplaced treatment, and tragic diversion of scarce resources.
Widespread misdiagnosis of a supposedly lethal infection has brought huge social disruption as well as tragic personal consequences. In poor countries, with the real causes of Aids often still not being addressed, much of the extra money is being spent on unvalidated test kits, inappropriate drugs, and condom campaigns that do not discriminate between safe and risky sexual practices.
Leung concludes in House of Numbers: ‘The victims of HIV and the dedicated professionals combating it deserve our sympathy, compassion and respect. However, at journey’s end, I find myself perplexed, bewildered at times, with an overall feeling of dismay and sadness. I found a research community in disarray over the most fundamental understanding of HIV, all the while presenting a monolithic public posture of authority and certainty.’
He goes further, claiming the HIV tests prove nothing, that some remedies kill, and that statistics have been manipulated to the point of absurdity. It is such conclusions that have drawn fire, but it is not only the interviews and the filmmaking that won the awards: Leung touches on a scientific critique that questions almost every aspect of Aids science, and which grips audiences that have been deprived for so long of any inkling that such questions have any validity.
This remarkable film offers a fresh opportunity for the scientific and medical communities to address the painful challenges it presents. Some $200 billion of American taxpayers’ money alone has gone into fighting HIV — in pursuit of the theory that HIV means Aids, which means death. Asking awkward questions, as Leung does, is free. But it is the latter which we still seem to have problems with.
Right you are... the only chance we’re left with, then is to minimize them. Wish I had a shrink ray.
But alas; all we’re left with as a strategy is to unite and conquer. It’s worked before. Listening to Rush and his commentary on Reagan today made me feel hopeful in a way and helpless in another. Rush is saying it right. We need a common, conservative message. I think we’re capable of that as a group of conservatives, but without a leader that shares those views and has no fear of failure (not to mention a lack of skeletons in the proverbial closet) we’re just screaming in the desert.
Who’s out there with both the personality and the message?
“It’s amazing how easily GGG sets off a group posting orgasm with the lunatic fringe.”
You’re right. You guys crawl out of the woodwork every time he posts, don’cha?
Pretty obvious.
GGG pings us. They just show up.
Kind of like they’re looking for it..... ya know?
“Kind of like they’re looking for it..... ya know?”
No doubt... but for a select few, I’m convinced most of them are disingenuous liberal H1N1 that are only here to stir the pot. At best... I was going to add an at best, but I don’t see one.
YOU ARE THE LUNATIC FRINGE, xcamel. But as such, you will probably never grasp that fact. As I said before, your days are numbered here on FR. Your addictive and self-destructive personality has no choice but to cross the line and get yourself banned. Although, I have to hand it to you for lasting this long, as you are far more looney and offensive than Coyoteman ever was.
[[Yet effective means, DDT, of preventing malaria spread and infection only costs a few dollars per person per year. But where are the “Malaria Quilts” and ribbons on trees?]]
Great point- I’d doen a few reports on the NON threat of DDT, and how it too became a celebrity cause to ban the substance while ignoring hte fact that people were dropping dead from a fully preventable problem- IT IS JUST SIMPLY STUNNING the hypocrisy and mentality of the far left wirth their causes- They are NOT concerned about ANYTHING but undermining conservative values, and the FACT that they oppose DDT while approving more funding for research into a lifestyle disease like Aids shows they are infact depopulation advocates who could care less about people who are TRULY suffering from diseases and maladies that they have no control over- their hypocrisy is simply stunning
“YOU ARE THE LUNATIC FRINGE, xcamel.”
GGG,
I hate to inform you that you, sir have crossed the line. Your words have slandered lunatics everywhere and on behalf of the lunatics... I DEMAND AN APOLOGY!
We will not be called “xcamel’s”!!!
By the way... I am a lunatic, but I’m lunatic mainstream... not lunatic fringe. We’ll leave that to Mr. X.
(Great post you did there, Mr. GGG)
xcamel... notsomuch.
Are you saying that equating lunacy with xcamel is an insults to lunatics everywhere? I had no idea. From now on, whenever I refer to xcamel’s state of mind, I be sure to make it absolutely clear that she is a sub-lunatic! My humblest apologies, sir!
“My humblest apologies, sir!”
You’re a gentleman and a scholar... I tip my hat to you, my good man.
With every post of yours, you are pushing FR closer to looneyville.
Thanks for the ping
Notice how leftists try to hold conservatives “to their own standards” but have none of their own. Same thing with atheists arguing with Christians.
The funny thing about the left and atheists, though, is that they don’t understand the concept of “sinful man” and therefore can’t understand that we KNOW we can’t live up to that standard, thus the need for a Savior.
Kind of hypocritical, the do as I say, not as I do, mentality.
Must be nice to be free of the constraints one so willingly imposes on others. Such is moral relativism.
So, what about it? Are you going to reply to my comment in post 49 that is a reply to your declaration that you are going to keep stalking and harassing GGG across threads on FR?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2372878/posts?page=49#49
The post wasn’t to you there, brainchild.
You and your ilk do not exist in a vacuum, and you’re driving more people away from FR that you could ever imagine.
If anyone is driving people away from FR, it's people who behave like you, who lash out at everyone around them like an out of control toddler throwing a temper tantrum, hitting and spitting and calling them names like *poopyhead*.
I haven't seen you post one nice post to anyone ever and your posting history bears that out for all to see.
True, because you have never actually looked.
It's really sad that you just can't seem to get your head around that pesky 9th commandment.
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