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Lis Wiehl's false statements on the "O'Reilly Factor" regarding Obama's birth documentation...

Posted on 10/28/2009 7:02:56 AM PDT by MelSmith

On last night's O'Reilly Factor (Oct 27, 2009), Bill O'Reilly sat stupidly while Lis Wiehl made several conspicuously false statements regarding the facts related to Obama's birth documentation. Referring to the "birthers", Ms. Wiehl stated that "It's this whole movement that says that Obama was elected from a bad, unconstitutional point of view because he was not born in the United States. That's been litigated. Congress investigated. His birth document from Hawaii was shown."

First, regarding "That's been litigated" this case has never actually been heard in open court (because the plaintiffs have been denied standing).

Second, regarding "Congress investigated." Does anyone know to what she is referring? Or as that a total fabrication? Does she really think that Barney Frank and Harry Reid have "investigated" this?

Third, regarding "His birth document from Hawaii was shown", Ms. Wiehl fails to mention that what has been shown is purported to be a bona fide copy of Mr. Obama's birth documentation. Furthermore, the validity of that copy is disputed for a number of reasons. (And they never mention the fact that Hawaii issues two types of birth documentation, and that there is an interesting dispute as to which type of birth documentation Mr. Obama has.)

Fox News continues to ridicule people who believe that Mr. Obama's birth records -- that are actually on file in Hawaii -- should be made available to independent document experts for inspection and validation.

My question: are they afraid of this story, or do they simply not understand it at all? I do not believe that Fox is part of a conspiracy or a deliberate cover up. Stupid? Yes. Nefarious? No.


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To: Scanian
BOR is a Democrat. If Jesus ran for Mayor on the Republican ticket, with the Apostles for city council, BOR would not consider voting for Him, even if the Democrats were running Satan.

He has never....THAT"S NEVER ....voted for ANY Republican Candidate, or even recommended one. Ask him.

He is on TV as a sop to "Blue Collar Catholic Democrats," to keep them voting for the big government abortionists. It's cynical niche marketing and it worked.

BOR is sort of a street version of the pansy wet-leg Democrat, Chris Matthews, a dumber version of that other hardened Democrat, the late Tim Russert. Why freepers waste their time with him ... and others I could name ... is beyond me.

41 posted on 10/28/2009 7:59:32 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: MelSmith

O proved beyond a doubt last night he is a liberal.

The sad part is while the left has started a campaign to discredit the BC issue no conservatives on the air will say one stinking word.

They are all cowards.


42 posted on 10/28/2009 8:08:00 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: LucyT; null and void

ping


43 posted on 10/28/2009 8:08:32 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: MelSmith

Lis Wiehl: cute, but a fat and stupid liberal (but I repeat myself).


44 posted on 10/28/2009 8:11:42 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: Fractal Trader; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ..
Lis Wiehl's false statements on the "O'Reilly Factor" regarding Obama's birth documentation...

(Thanks, Fractal Trader.)

45 posted on 10/28/2009 8:15:47 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Had Roberts joined Alito, Scalia, and Thomas, this would have been heard before the election, when Donofrio’s case made it up to conference.”

Donofrio’s case was for a Stay of the election. They didn’t dismiss the issue behind the request. It was a long shot and Leo knew it. They refused to hear a stay of the election.

“It also took Donofrio to bring the Hawaiian authorities to heel. They have been illegally stonewalling requests for information; information they are required to make public ... to anyone .... under Hawaiian Law. Hawaiian statutes are quite clear ... Obama has no right to privacy in the issue, He waived it with the COLB release.”

This one I agree with completely. I have my own Requests in to DoH and its one hard to duck. They have until Nov. 4 to respond. So far, silence, though they have responded to earlier requests.

If they ignore this request, then they are going to have some issues with the Judiciary in Hawaii, because that is comin down the pike.


46 posted on 10/28/2009 8:16:15 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Free Per the Constitution

She should stick to the Lacey Peterson-type stories


47 posted on 10/28/2009 8:18:47 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: MelSmith; LucyT

Ping, and many “new” posters!!!


48 posted on 10/28/2009 8:19:50 AM PDT by danamco
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To: MelSmith

I suspect they ‘have something’ on BOR. He suddenly got meek as a lamb and very compliant with the program.

I don’t fault him, I rather doubt there is anyone in the public eye who doesn’t have some secret that can be used against them.

They found his. Poor bastard.


49 posted on 10/28/2009 8:22:44 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 279 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...

ping


50 posted on 10/28/2009 8:27:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 279 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

You give him credit for more ideological underpinnings than I ever could.

I see him as a cynical money-grubber and nothing more.

It took him a while to really get going in the TV business and once he finally made it he was going to play it for all it was worth. Now at 60 he’s just trying to feather his nest for the “golden years’ and his kids, if he has any.

That’s another funny thing about him. Has anybody ever seen Mrs. O’Reilly? Anybody know anything about any kids? I find that odd when compared to the other people on Fox.


51 posted on 10/28/2009 8:28:27 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Danae
Donofrio’s case was for a Stay of the election. They didn’t dismiss the issue behind the request. It was a long shot and Leo knew it. They refused to hear a stay of the election.

You are correct. However, Donofrio's case was actually "shuffled" by the Clerk of the SCOTUS. This would have been the perfect time to hear the case. This is exactly where the eligibility trolley came off the tracks.

Do we live in "interesting times," as the old Chinese Curse went, or what?

52 posted on 10/28/2009 8:29:07 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: Scanian
“The “Big Leprechaun,” as Rev. Manning calls him, seems to be laboring under the fantasy that Huseein will grant him another interview, something that he is so, so proud to have done during the campaign.”

I agree.

O’Reilly, who pounded two hapless Democrats earlier in the program on Obama’s dithering over ordering more troops for Afghanistan, wants to create the impression that his program is an “Obama Safe Zone” on the BC issue, as if that would increase his chance for another interview.

But maybe O’Reilly is just trying to make his program emotionally “safe” for the large part of his audience that are independents and even Democrats and who can be reached and reasoned with and gently brought more over to the “right side” of his issues, but would be unable to emotionally cope with the potentially devastating implications of the BC issue.

53 posted on 10/28/2009 8:31:19 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: MelSmith
That's been litigated. Congress investigated. His birth document from Hawaii was shown."
 
Huh?  When did that happen?  Remember Axelrod and Ailes had tea and crumpets a week or so ago?
 
I said watch how Fox moderates their news and commentary.
 
Is this the beginning?
 
Fox is in a better position by letting Barry O. make them an enemy.  Their viewership has already increased because of it.
 
if they are going to reverse course so they can get an interview, then there will be no eyeballs on their channel either.
 
Bill O'Really completely moderated in March and has been equivocating every since then.
 
He would like nothign more than to interview Barry O.

54 posted on 10/28/2009 8:31:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Mr. K

She is redundant, like your post. lol


55 posted on 10/28/2009 8:40:22 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Danae

Something breaks out of Hawaii....

Can’t help it...

Free the Long Form.


56 posted on 10/28/2009 8:44:59 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: LucyT; Fractal Trader; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; ...

It appears BOR is in the tank, or in bed with Obama. Now with the leftist news orgs attacking the BC iisue will the right respond?


57 posted on 10/28/2009 8:45:54 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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Lis is cute but dumb. One thing I notice about her is how much she nods her head during conversations, its kinda distracting.


58 posted on 10/28/2009 8:50:50 AM PDT by isom35
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To: Scanian

Rev. Manning has a video on the birth certificate where he mentioned FoxNews, O’Reilly, Beck, Rush, etc. for not investigating it.


59 posted on 10/28/2009 8:52:08 AM PDT by Lily4Jesus ( Jesus Saves)
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To: MelSmith

they are AFRAID...they have been warned (or threatened Chicago style!).


60 posted on 10/28/2009 8:54:08 AM PDT by awin
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