Posted on 10/26/2009 8:56:51 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Shuffling genetic information has long been framed as a biological mechanism that can generate variety as well as fuel evolution. However, new details of a common cellular genetic shuffling process called crossing over reveal a tightly controlled system that operates under strict parameters and requires highly specified cellular machinery. It is as if each generation was programmed to have variation, and that variation had strict limitationslimitations that would preclude Darwinian evolution...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
All he does is look at abstracts, interpret them wrong and tack on the “since this is complex, God must have did it.” paragraph sometimes with a bible verse added. As it said in the Dire Straits song”money for nothin’”
If you read any non”creationist science” stuff, LIKE A TEXTBOOK, you would know how bad his writing and your knowledge on biology is.
Both “conserved” and “genome duplications” are loaded terms, as neither has been observed, but rather they are inferred based on evolutionary expectations.
I have a feeling I read far more science papers, articles, and books than you do Wacka. Of course, I can’t confirm that...call it a hunch. But I have noticed that you are routinely behind the times when it comes to science. And I have also noticed that whenever you attempt to critique Brian Thomas and I investigate, it is you who prove to be in error...which is precisely what happened today.
They have been observed in the sense that widespread wetness outside means that it has rained.
BTW, whole genome duplications have been induced in plants and led to viable and desirable offspring.
Did you notice that he investigates and concludes. If you don't believe him, just ask him. (note: he didn't mention that his investigation is most likely limited to asking Brian Thomas or another member of the amen posse)
Pseudoscientists often reveal themselves by their handling of the scientific literature. Their idea of doing scientific research is simply to read scientific periodicals and monographs. They focus on words, not on the underlying facts and reasoning. They take science to be all statements by scientists. Science degenerates into a secular substitute for sacred literature. Any statement by any scientist can be cited against any other statement. Every statement counts and every statement is open to interpretation. - Science and Unreason, Radner and Radner
Do you have any links for this...I’m genuinely curious. Thanks.
Thanks for the ping!
He gave us the polio vaccine as a means of stopping the horrible evil of polio. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Be grateful for the grace of understanding which leads to the ability to combat evil.
It is divine grace that gave us the understanding and the knowledge that enabled us to transfuse blood, transplant hearts, and cure leukemia! Be grateful.
An understanding of the process of evolution--if only an incomplete understanding--is a gift of divine grace. Be thankful.
How do you know Evolution IS God's method? How do arrive at the conclusion that evolution “—is a gift of divine grace”?
I see no reason to respond to your comments and won’t beyond this point.
BWAAAAAAhahahahahaha......that's because you do not live in the science world....don't read REAL "science writers." Brian Thomas MS* is a scientific moron that twists everything he sees to fit a false conclusion that Man walked the Earth with 100+ species of meat eating dinosaurs.
I read a lot of science, so I am speaking from experience here.
You read a lot of "science" and that gives you "experience" such that others should listen to your vast experience???? REAL science or Brian Thomas MS* "science"? REAL science or YEC, ICR, DI, ID, CreationSafaris "science"?
Very few writers are capable of boiling down complex subjects into easily digestible language like Brian Thomas does.
OH, I agree....very few science writers are able to "boil down"....read, "twist everything to the false conclusion that Man walked the Earth with 100+ species of large meat eating dinosaurs".....what they don't understand and get anyone to take them seriously.
when I investigate, it invariably turns out that it is the person who is making the allegation who got it wrong
Oh, I'm suuuuuuure you use all that investigative skills you learned in Admin school to look into the wild "scientific" claims Brian Thomas MS* makes.
That Brian Thomas MS* is taken serious by ANYONE is laughable.
MS* is this case meaning “Mostly Sh*t”
First, the effects of polyploidy (a more general term for whole genome duplication) are easily observed with a microscope, and paleopolyploidy has been confirmed by recent analysis of genome sequences. There is no controversy about it having occurred.
If you want to learn more, you can do searches on terms like "polyploidy", "induced polyploidy", "colchicine polyploidy", "crops polyploidy", and "paleopolyploidy".
A lot of crops are polyploid.
* Triploid crops: banana, apple, ginger, watermelon, citrus
* Tetraploid crops: durum or macaroni wheat, maize, cotton, potato, cabbage, leek, tobacco, peanut, kinnow, Pelargonium
* Hexaploid crops: chrysanthemum, bread wheat, triticale, oat, kiwifruit
* Octaploid crops: strawberry, dahlia, pansies, sugar cane
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