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How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?


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To: Campion

Speaking of Mormonism...

Way, way back b4 the I’Net, I had a book on “cults” with one chapter in it that insisted that young Joe Smith had spent a few days in a NY jail with a traveling preacher who had been writing a book. The preacher made a profound impression on Smith.

It seems Smith went free a few days later and the preacher found he was then missing his manuscript. The author thought that that manuscript was the basis of Smith’s beliefs from that time on.

I have since (lately)attempted to determine the name and author of that book w/o success.

Anyone know of it?


141 posted on 10/26/2009 8:38:08 AM PDT by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'en Commie Basterd!)
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To: Nabber
“By and large, Mormons are an honest, clean, decent, industrious and patriotic lot.”
I agree. They are deeply committed to their parishoners including financial when necessary, but they are generally highly financially successful themselves. They suppport the America Conservatives support and are less Leftest than my local USA Presbyterrian churches who have given to Acorn for their so called,feed the hungry program.

It has fit a need for Glenn Beck-maybe it was the alcholic recovery program? Who knows. But he doesn’t prothosolize his beliefs which is far better than the anti-God left.

142 posted on 10/26/2009 8:38:09 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: Ransomed

“I bet Flap Jackson in the Morning this Morning is a bitter agnostic.”

‘quack’ ‘quack’ :)


143 posted on 10/26/2009 8:38:09 AM PDT by freemama
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To: Red Boots
“how can someone as intelligent as you not be a ‘progressive’?”

Because Progressivism is based on a completely artificial 19th century economic fiction and Conservatism is based on the continued observation of human nature over time in just the same way that science is based on drawing conclusions from real, observed phenomena.

That one works for me. Ticks some libs off big time, though, since they find it extremely difficult to come up with any objective arguments against it.

They also don't like it when I refer to "Marxist superstitions." (Hee hee hee!)

144 posted on 10/26/2009 8:38:31 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: manc

“Look at the catholic church in the north east where they hardly ever speak against abortion and homos and they vote for the Dems.” - Uh, it isn’t just NE Catholics - deceased Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago - worked hard to build a ‘big tent’ to add pro-abortion types, abortionists, anti-white racists, class envy experts, social ‘justice’ types, supported extreme leftist priests, sexual perverts, earth worshiping greenies and the so-called ‘social gospel’ types to his flock. Unfortunately, American Catholic Bishops remain strongly leftist.


145 posted on 10/26/2009 8:39:07 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: Skenderbej
Are you sure that pithy bible verse wasn't describing Bill O'Reilly to a tee?

See my tag line.

Leni

146 posted on 10/26/2009 8:41:33 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Tax Government
Even more beware of all who claim to have a corner on the market of what is true and what is not true...especially when it comes to faith and religion.

There are far too many around here who are ready to place their judgment on others' faith. No one on Earth has absolute knowledge of the "truth," they only have opinion informed by faith and belief in what they are told or have read in books in which they have faith.

Who knows, maybe the Mormons have it right and I don't. I don't believe that to be so, but until I have passed on to the great beyond, all I have is my beliefs and my faith...it is not for me to judge what others believe.

Some of you are going to be really surprised when you go to heaven and are confronted by "The Great Banana.":)

BEck is Beck, not any of the rest of us and what works for him is good.

BTW he is nutz, but it has little to do with either his politics or his religion of choice.
147 posted on 10/26/2009 8:41:45 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: madison10

Because they go with what you said about working with Christ.


148 posted on 10/26/2009 8:41:47 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: Scythian
When a religious person ridules someone elses beliefs:


149 posted on 10/26/2009 8:43:34 AM PDT by Riodacat (Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: mnehring

“Almost every single religion looks strange and cultish when viewed from the outside, yet, for someone on the inside of said religion, it seems perfectly sane and logical. Viewing things from the inside, one has trouble understanding how people view it differently from the outside. It is all a matter of perspective.”

I kind of see what you are saying, but how then can we not ‘accept’islamicable peoples. including the jihadists?

maybe it has to do with religions that go ‘out of their way’ to convert or deal with outsiders...


150 posted on 10/26/2009 8:43:56 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: Scythian

Many people agree with you.

Actually Beck is a Catholic who was baptized Catholic and is no longer practicing the Catholic faith.

Pray for him.


151 posted on 10/26/2009 8:45:17 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: humblegunner
>> He delves so deeply into everything he touch upon << No, his research staff does. He just talks about their results. >> when it comes to his religion he he doesn't dig deeper than the book jacket << Obviously, he has not set that task before his research staff. You didn't really thinks he comes up with information on his own?

Since I have been listening to Beck from the days when his research staff consisted of himself, Stu and the lady who emptied the trash cans, I believe I have a very sound understanding of how Beck seeks out information.

Beck's primary characteristics are an inquiring mind, common sense and the ability to synthesize information into a discernable picture. Yes, as his popularity and scope has expanded, his staff expanded, however the Beck of today is the same Beck from years ago when there was no staff.

I readily admit that I do not know for a fact that Beck has a thourough knowledge of his religion. However, considering the characteristics he has demonstrated from his early talk show days through today, it seems absurd to believe that in something so important to his life, he would settle for superfulous knowledge.

152 posted on 10/26/2009 8:45:45 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: jbp1

I didn’t say anything about ‘accepting’, the question in the original posting was ‘how can Glen believe this’. I acknowledge that Hinduism is completely normal to Hindus who have grown up with it, that doesn’t mean I accept it as my religion or even valid.


153 posted on 10/26/2009 8:46:54 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Some hope remaining.
“How could any critical thinking person be Catholic?”

As an ex-Catholic I agree with this. So much about the Catholic church is unbiblical. Yet so many are still blind to that fact.
154 posted on 10/26/2009 8:47:25 AM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: Sudetenland

He is not nutz...he’s telling the truth.


155 posted on 10/26/2009 8:47:47 AM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: humblegunner
No, his research staff does. He just talks about their results.

That is actually a really good point that should be applied to a LOT of media. The talking head rarely ever creates the content. He is nothing more than a mouthpiece for something, someone else wrote on a teleprompter. I have no idea about Beck specifically, but this is pretty much a general rule across the media.

156 posted on 10/26/2009 8:48:12 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Scythian
How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon?

Because spiritual discernment is different than rational evaluation.

157 posted on 10/26/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Scythian
Yes, I have wondered the same thing. It especially creeps me out at the beginning of the program when he says, “follow me.”
158 posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:00 AM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: Notwithstanding

Amen.


159 posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:08 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: Puppage

“Besides, who are WE to say what he believes is NOT the truth? Seems a bit ignorant to think otherwise, IMHO. “

That’s just the argument of either a feeble mind or someone trying to defend a position. You might believe in such bullsh*t but I am neither gullible or stupid. It takes a childish mind to think everyone should just forget what they know and allow anything and everything to be because somehow it is just “arrogance” otherwise. Look up arrogance and get back to us; that’s an overused term.


160 posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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