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My advise to the Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley - TURN YOUR WATER ON!
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | September 17, 2009 | Jeff Head

Posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head

Here we go again.

I was watching Sean Hannity tonight (9/17/2009), and have been following loosely the situation in the San Joaquin Valley of California with their water crisis over the small Delta Smelt minnow and its endangered species listing.

The Farmers have water rights to that water. There is no legal water rights for that water for a minnow over the farmers. There is only a manufactured judicial legal decision by liberal judges based on junk science and the whims of administrators and bureaucrats that create these incidents based on the Endangered Species Act and a rabid environmental policy.

This is an illegal "taking", and it is unconstitutional on its face. And it simply cannot stand.

This sounds more and more like what happened in the Klamath Basin Water Crisis to farmers of Oregon and northern California in 2001. At that time, the magical fish was the sucker fish...and every farmer in that basin knew that the sucker fish was not endagered and that they did not need a "full" lake to survive. It was junk science being used to push an anti-American environmental agenda then...plain and simple...and it is the same today.

Here is my suggestion to the Farmers and their allies in the San Joaquin Valley.

You have the numbers...many more people actively engaged in the fight than we had in Klamath. In Klamath, there were many meetings with politicians...followed by meetings with "officials" of government agencies. In the end, the result was the same...the water stayed off.

It was not until a few farmers and their allies took control of the headgates and turned the water back on that things began to happen. In that case, only a dozen farmers and their allies were at the gates the next morning when 50-70 armed law enforcement officers came and took the head gates back and again turned off the water.

If we had had 1000 farmers and their allies there that morning, they would not have been able to do so.

As it was, we did not, and so those officers, who had reconnoitered our position through the night, turned the water back off...temporarily.

But that was the spark and by the next afternoon, the farmers and their allies gathered en masse and surrounded the law enforcement officers (most of whom absolutely did not want to be there) and made their life miserable over the course of many weeks.

Ultimately, after the farmers pumped the water in small quanitities, and then siphoned it in larger quantities around the headgates, at a later rally where many hundreds were present, the farmers crossed the line again and penned the government officers in.

Soon thereafter, legal decisions began to change and the crisis was ultimately resolved and returned to the status quo and the farmers got their water.

To this day the Klamath Basin has continued getting enough water to farm.

Now the fight has moved to the much larger and larger producing San Joaquin Valley.

In the end, my advise is simple.

STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.

FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.

Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.

And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.

Once those lines are drawn, and you engage in civil disobedience in this fashion, people will flock to you by the tens of thousands and the administration will be forced to turn things around and magically find, as the Bush administration did before them, the "new science" to support a reversal of their current policy.

God bless you farmers there. God bless all who support you.

In the end, it is your decision. This advise is simply given from one who witnessed the same type of governmental infringement, the same unconstitutional and illegal takings, the same judicial and environmental tyranny that you are experiencing now...and stood with those who did something about it.



TOPICS: Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: cah2o; centralvalley; cvwatercrisis; deltasmelt; drought; endangeredspecies; endangeredspeciesact; environazis; esa; hannity; junkscience; nobama; obamatruthfile; standatklamathfalls; waronthewest; water; waterrights
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To: AuntB

Have you seen this?


201 posted on 09/18/2009 9:27:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head

Turn the water on!!


202 posted on 09/18/2009 9:29:57 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head

One solution would be to eliminate all the fish. If the fish are gone, there is no need to save the water to save the fish.


203 posted on 09/18/2009 9:33:52 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: melancholy

Same thing I was thinking, but on a larger scale since the intakes are so huge. Screens close to the intake would probably restrict flow too much, so you need a containment area for “de-minnowed” water. Something like a large reservoir/basin that keeps the minnow or any other wildlife from getting anywhere near the intakes constructed around the intakes to provide enough volume for them while protecting the precious little minnow.


204 posted on 09/18/2009 9:35:45 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The American people deserve more than hype and claims from all parts of gov't (think founders)!)
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To: blackie

Yep! LET THE WATER FLOW!


205 posted on 09/18/2009 9:36:16 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Jeff Head
I watched the special last night. This injustice is an outrage.

People can call me paranoid if they like, but I think this is just another part of the deliberate attempt to destroy America as an independent nation.

206 posted on 09/18/2009 9:37:47 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
Where is La Raza? Have they done anything to protect the huge Hispanic numbers of unemployed due to this green terrorist crime against humans?

Even the illegal aliens should have their irrigation water turned back on. I respect and like all farmers and anyone who grows food. Even the illegals. I would still deport them but while they are here they should have water in the fields they work in.

Massive unemployment in the San Joaquin
Many of the land owners are Hispanic and most of the workers are

207 posted on 09/18/2009 9:41:18 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: AuntB

I watched Hannity last night and that part of the Valley really looks dry!


208 posted on 09/18/2009 9:48:07 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head
There are similarities here to the Railroad wars during the (California Govenor) Johnson administration.

The Southern Pacific Railroad attempted to enslave the valley farmers by completely controlling the shipment of farm produce and setting freight rates at 100% of the farmers profit.

When the farmers refused and hired teamsters to transport their produce by wagon, the railroad hired Pinkertons to prevent the farmers from using the public roads at the railroad grade crossings, as the track right of way was private property.

The several county sheriff's affected started picking sides, some accepting railroad bribes and protecting the Pinkertons, and some not interfering with the resultant armed groups of farmers/teamsters.

There were several killings on both sides, but the overall result was the steady erosion of California railroad power to an effective neutered state in 1911 with the installation of the initiative referendum, and recall. The Pinkerton agency was permanently discredited as hired thugs, and the 1956 interstate highway system destroyed the railroad influence nationally in finality. These results are not coincidental.

Point is the farmers must be willing to see it through to the finish. One thing for sure is the new Pinkertons, the public employees, already have the reputation and credibility of the original Pinkertons.

209 posted on 09/18/2009 9:49:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: dennisw

As you noted many of the land owners in the new dust bowl are Hispanics. They are legal or born in the USA, and they are being economically $crewed by the green economic terrorists.


210 posted on 09/18/2009 9:53:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: blackie; AuntB

Howdy there! So good to ‘see’ you again.

I drove up the valley a few weeks ago. It is the worst I have ever seen it in all my years traveling this route. Truly sad what has happened to a place that was once vibrant with vegatation and life. I loved traveling this route during harvest watching the activity and GOOD OLD AMERICAN COMMERCE...no this trip.


211 posted on 09/18/2009 9:55:29 AM PDT by amom (Proud mom of an Army tanker. Remembering Tonk)
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To: Jeff Head
You should seriously consider a seperate page/thread for this amom...

Working on it now. I'll ping you when I've posted it. Most likely this evening or tomorrow.

212 posted on 09/18/2009 10:06:32 AM PDT by amom (Proud mom of an Army tanker. Remembering Tonk)
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To: Eva; Jeff Head

I was in beautiful c. WA in June, and saw the signs opposing taking down the dams. Wonderful, wonderful farm country, and I pray it can be maintained that way.


213 posted on 09/18/2009 10:22:49 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: jurroppi1
Same thing I was thinking, but on a larger scale since the intakes are so huge.

Depending on the volumetric flow rate(s), there is a calculated basin-like dimension for a hold-up volume.

To dig and lay a concrete basin is much more involved, time consuming and expensive. However, with the stainless screen I mentioned in my post, the water velocity will be low enough not to cause a high delta P, affecting the water flow rate, hence; any vibrations affecting the screen or causing pump(s) cavitation and damaging the impeller(s).

The existing pumps must have existing screens (filter cages) around the intakes. They should be left alone and one large fence, if you will, erected per the description in my previous post.

The cost of such a construction is next to zero compared to the cost of the pumping station.

As an aside, the zero needs to be caged, but that's for a different reason altogether.

214 posted on 09/18/2009 10:40:02 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: jpl
I think this is just another part of the deliberate attempt to destroy America as an independent nation.

And/or creating a desert for a solr-panel farm to fit the CommuFascist agend, which by extesion, will ruin our beloved country.

215 posted on 09/18/2009 10:46:33 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: melancholy

solr-——>solar


216 posted on 09/18/2009 10:47:14 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: amom
GREAT! Looking forward to it and will ping my entire list to the same.
217 posted on 09/18/2009 10:51:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Navy Patriot
Tyranny is tyranny...whether by a bunch of goons from the Railroad, or from the government.

Using the color of law to make it happen, IMHO, it is the duty of every faithful American to stand four-square against it from whatever source, just as our forefathers did.

Obama surely does not want the spectre of the federal government ridong rough shod and ultimately fighting farmers for the farmer's water over a minnow. He's already suffering in the polls...and this is going to make him suffer much more. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

218 posted on 09/18/2009 10:54:42 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: jpl

The environmental whackos and their supporters in the judicial, executive, and legislative branches are the useful idiots of those wanting to destrroy this nation. No doubt about it, particularly when you research the foundations, funding, grants, etc., etc.


219 posted on 09/18/2009 10:56:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Grampa Dave
they are being economically $crewed by the green economic terrorists.

The enviro whackos are going to get it from both sides. It's no longer a liberal agenda appreciated by the mostly liberal farming population in the area.

The RATs coalition of fringe groups is doing them in, separately and collectively. (A nice liberal word)

220 posted on 09/18/2009 10:56:29 AM PDT by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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