Posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head
Here we go again.
I was watching Sean Hannity tonight (9/17/2009), and have been following loosely the situation in the San Joaquin Valley of California with their water crisis over the small Delta Smelt minnow and its endangered species listing.
The Farmers have water rights to that water. There is no legal water rights for that water for a minnow over the farmers. There is only a manufactured judicial legal decision by liberal judges based on junk science and the whims of administrators and bureaucrats that create these incidents based on the Endangered Species Act and a rabid environmental policy.
This is an illegal "taking", and it is unconstitutional on its face. And it simply cannot stand.
This sounds more and more like what happened in the Klamath Basin Water Crisis to farmers of Oregon and northern California in 2001. At that time, the magical fish was the sucker fish...and every farmer in that basin knew that the sucker fish was not endagered and that they did not need a "full" lake to survive. It was junk science being used to push an anti-American environmental agenda then...plain and simple...and it is the same today.
Here is my suggestion to the Farmers and their allies in the San Joaquin Valley.
You have the numbers...many more people actively engaged in the fight than we had in Klamath. In Klamath, there were many meetings with politicians...followed by meetings with "officials" of government agencies. In the end, the result was the same...the water stayed off.
It was not until a few farmers and their allies took control of the headgates and turned the water back on that things began to happen. In that case, only a dozen farmers and their allies were at the gates the next morning when 50-70 armed law enforcement officers came and took the head gates back and again turned off the water.
If we had had 1000 farmers and their allies there that morning, they would not have been able to do so.
As it was, we did not, and so those officers, who had reconnoitered our position through the night, turned the water back off...temporarily.
But that was the spark and by the next afternoon, the farmers and their allies gathered en masse and surrounded the law enforcement officers (most of whom absolutely did not want to be there) and made their life miserable over the course of many weeks.
Ultimately, after the farmers pumped the water in small quanitities, and then siphoned it in larger quantities around the headgates, at a later rally where many hundreds were present, the farmers crossed the line again and penned the government officers in.
Soon thereafter, legal decisions began to change and the crisis was ultimately resolved and returned to the status quo and the farmers got their water.
To this day the Klamath Basin has continued getting enough water to farm.
Now the fight has moved to the much larger and larger producing San Joaquin Valley.
In the end, my advise is simple.
STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.
FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.
Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.
And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.
Once those lines are drawn, and you engage in civil disobedience in this fashion, people will flock to you by the tens of thousands and the administration will be forced to turn things around and magically find, as the Bush administration did before them, the "new science" to support a reversal of their current policy.
God bless you farmers there. God bless all who support you.
In the end, it is your decision. This advise is simply given from one who witnessed the same type of governmental infringement, the same unconstitutional and illegal takings, the same judicial and environmental tyranny that you are experiencing now...and stood with those who did something about it.
The delta is not the only place that has this smelt. It's nation wide, the mere fact that the tree huggers gave it a special name “delta smelt” were they able to fulfill their agenda.
heard of the California Aqueduct?
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I sure have,,,
Retired utilities worker here,,,
Lived/worked in SoCal for years,,,
Ever heard of Pamo Dam in San Diego County ?
That got blocked because of some damned little bird!!!
As SD is at the far end of the aqueduct that would have
given them some of what they needed,,,
And that would have given more water to LA/etc,,,
And rite back up the line,,,
These peoples water got shut off because of a little fish!!!
Now their water runs out to sea...
That too...but it’s well beyond that...they want to shut down more and more of our agriculture, thereby making us dependent on foreign sources, and therby being able to have much more abject control over the people.
He certainly double-taked Hannity and I think Sean knew it when he ended the interview that Arnie isn’t going to do a thing to help those people.
California Farm Water Coalition www.cfwc.com
Family Farm Alliance www.FamilyFarmAlliance.org
Coalition for a Sustainable Delta http://www.SustainableDelta.com/
Latino Water Coalition http://www.GotWater.org/
Here is a better idea, look at the law and use the power of government against them.
Look, I heard all these Cities and Counties have signed letters to Obama. Make them put money where their mouth is.
Look for any way to tax the bejesus out of the constituencies of the President and the Democrat Party.
Look at County Easements where power is transmitted over it to power the city of San Fransisco, Tax it. See that water that is pumped from the ground in the county for the city, tax it.
Here a tax, there a tax, every where a tax tax.
Use the power of government to nail them in everyway you can.
Truck the water in on trucks (great for global warming) with the money.
I bet they will turn on the water themselves and they will be begging for you to stop.
USE THE POWER!
Way to go amom! Add all of those together...plus the two I pinged you too...and you have a good resource thread for the San Joaquin Water Crisis.
The ire of the people is what has to rise here. Thousands of people, turning the water on and then standing vigil over it. Embarassment to no end...people from all over the country flocking to aid the farmers...just like they did in Klamath.
The pressure would build and build until they simply had to turn it around...or risk civil upheavel, with them being the object of everyone's ire as the fault.
We've already shown that can work in Klamath...some of them just have to make that move and then be supported by the others...and us.
This was addressed in the program, they want to kill the farms so that they can take them over to plant solar arrays. It takes hundreds of square miles of land and millions of solar cells to power even a medium size city, but that means nothing to the "green" nuts.
BTW, anyone ever read Senate Bill 787 sponsored by, among others, Oregon's Ron Wyden? It's pretty scary, because it proposes to define as "waters of the United States" not just navigable waters, but ALL waters--thus placing them under the control of the Feds. Lookout owners of land (and beanfields)--your rights are being eroded away by a flood of Democrat sponsored legislation!
Right on my friend... this is war.
I do believe some things could be done along the lines of what you mentioned. I know it sounds unrealistic, but there are ways we could catch rain runoff on properties all over the southland, and save it in cisterns.
Water needs could be met for a month or two by using this water, and in good years, perhaps three months of water could be saved and used.
This water could be used for watering lawns, washing cars, and other things that might not require completely fresh water.
At my folks house in the foothills, they got over 45 inches of rain during the winter. You start thinking about the volume of water that represents over square miles of landscape.
I always thought that a folding system of plastic film could set up a natural runoff of water into a cistern and save literally thousands of gallons of water on just one property.
My folks have about half an acre. That should have worked out to about 2 acre feet of water on their property that year. If some way were devised to purify that rain water on their property, they could use it for all their needs. We might be talking about six months or more supply of water there.
http://fresnobeehive.com/opinion/2009/09/water_district_sells_farm_wate.html
Looks like water district sold the water.....not the farmers.
The more things change...the less they do!
Bump!
Saw this tonight... Obama wasn’t the president when this started, but unfortunately for him the people are more angry now and he needs to stop this insane blocking of water. Dream on...
“So, how’s that HOPE and CHANGE working out?” Change we hope to get free of :)
Well, in reality they actually are suffering from the effects of having less water than they deserve up there. Los Angeles takes a lot of water from the northern region of the state, including the San Joaquin Vally. If we supplied more of our own water, it would allow those farmers to retain more of their own, and use it to irrigate. If we’re not taking water from them directly, then water diverted from farther north could be used to help ease the water problems they have.
We have stressed the water needs of the state north of us, and I know we could do a lot better. It would sure make things better for our fellow citizens north of us.
Was just like yesterday. I’m in Alaska, but the warrior shoes are warming up....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/10/09/national/a004925D81.DTL&type=printable
SoCal Farmers to Face Water Woes in 2009 By JACOB ADELMAN, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, October 9, 2007
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