Posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head
Here we go again.
I was watching Sean Hannity tonight (9/17/2009), and have been following loosely the situation in the San Joaquin Valley of California with their water crisis over the small Delta Smelt minnow and its endangered species listing.
The Farmers have water rights to that water. There is no legal water rights for that water for a minnow over the farmers. There is only a manufactured judicial legal decision by liberal judges based on junk science and the whims of administrators and bureaucrats that create these incidents based on the Endangered Species Act and a rabid environmental policy.
This is an illegal "taking", and it is unconstitutional on its face. And it simply cannot stand.
This sounds more and more like what happened in the Klamath Basin Water Crisis to farmers of Oregon and northern California in 2001. At that time, the magical fish was the sucker fish...and every farmer in that basin knew that the sucker fish was not endagered and that they did not need a "full" lake to survive. It was junk science being used to push an anti-American environmental agenda then...plain and simple...and it is the same today.
Here is my suggestion to the Farmers and their allies in the San Joaquin Valley.
You have the numbers...many more people actively engaged in the fight than we had in Klamath. In Klamath, there were many meetings with politicians...followed by meetings with "officials" of government agencies. In the end, the result was the same...the water stayed off.
It was not until a few farmers and their allies took control of the headgates and turned the water back on that things began to happen. In that case, only a dozen farmers and their allies were at the gates the next morning when 50-70 armed law enforcement officers came and took the head gates back and again turned off the water.
If we had had 1000 farmers and their allies there that morning, they would not have been able to do so.
As it was, we did not, and so those officers, who had reconnoitered our position through the night, turned the water back off...temporarily.
But that was the spark and by the next afternoon, the farmers and their allies gathered en masse and surrounded the law enforcement officers (most of whom absolutely did not want to be there) and made their life miserable over the course of many weeks.
Ultimately, after the farmers pumped the water in small quanitities, and then siphoned it in larger quantities around the headgates, at a later rally where many hundreds were present, the farmers crossed the line again and penned the government officers in.
Soon thereafter, legal decisions began to change and the crisis was ultimately resolved and returned to the status quo and the farmers got their water.
To this day the Klamath Basin has continued getting enough water to farm.
Now the fight has moved to the much larger and larger producing San Joaquin Valley.
In the end, my advise is simple.
STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.
FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.
Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.
And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.
Once those lines are drawn, and you engage in civil disobedience in this fashion, people will flock to you by the tens of thousands and the administration will be forced to turn things around and magically find, as the Bush administration did before them, the "new science" to support a reversal of their current policy.
God bless you farmers there. God bless all who support you.
In the end, it is your decision. This advise is simply given from one who witnessed the same type of governmental infringement, the same unconstitutional and illegal takings, the same judicial and environmental tyranny that you are experiencing now...and stood with those who did something about it.
While Hannity was there with all the farmers and allies, I wonder if anyone suggested a big ol’ bus caravan of these farmers to DC to march on Congress and park outside the WH gates! How about a turn the water off sign for the WH and Shelly’s garden of produce...how would they like that?
I agree, too. Cut that chain and turn that valve. Perhaps that’s where the next march should be.
It's really simple, dispatch the National Guard to the valves, turn the water back on, and keep them their until the feds give up.
Pelosi wants this law, let her enforce it!
My thoughts on the water shortage, is that southern California has the responsibility to become more self-reliant. Placing a few nuclear reactors on So-Cal beaches or close by, would provide power for now and the future, and a by-product of millions of gallons of desalinated water.
It angers me that our city planners don’t do any forward thinking whatsoever these days.
I like the idea of just taking the pumps by force and forming a people’s army to guard the gate.
Well said!
If the farmers and people supporting them don’t take action the enviro-nazis and the judges in their pockets will win this war as they are with other enviro issues.
But for the rights they do have, they must stand. The minnow does not have legal rights to it. only judicial decisions based on...in all likelihood and if experience and history serves as any precedent...junk science.
I think Obama, Holder, et al are cowards. Look at how Obama backs down when challenged on anything....Wright, Ayers, Van Jones, etc. He’s a street thug with no leadership abilities and I think his support is getting to be very thin.
That needs some research. So the fishermen are having problems! I wish he would have had the chance to explain from that point of view what that has to do with the farmers not having water.
I wish, too, that Hannity would have pressed him about the water sale to SOCAL.
I think the water in the delta is controled by the state water agency.
The water that was shut off not only feeds the farmers but the domestic water supply for all of Southern California.
It’s a hugh pumping system that feeds a canal as big as most rivers.
I doub tthat anyone in a state agency would have the balls to turn on the system against a federal judges order.
I doubt Arnold will do anything so couragous. JMHO. But these farmers already have the numbers behind and with them. They are a far, far larger population of individuals than the 1500 farming families in the Klamath Basin. They could organize and have thousands on hand.
Jeff, Thanks for the article and ping. I drove past this area two weeks ago and was shocked to see what is normally a lush green landscape this time of year...brown with small patches of green...dry dirt brown. There were groves of trees parched and dead or dying...hundreds of acres...many hours of driving. Words don’t adequately describe.
Does remind me of Klamath Falls all over again.
I agree with you 1000%
Massive resistence. Law enforcement doesn’t have the personnel or the funding to deny everybody in the country water for the food we eat, and the San Joaquin Valley supplies a large portion of it.
Not only farmers should be involved. Everyone who buys agricultural products should be there in force.
Whoever controls the water, controls the food. Hope and change isn’t going to fill your belly.
“Placing a few nuclear reactors on So-Cal beaches or close by, would provide power for now and the future, and a by-product of millions of gallons of desalinated water “
LADWP had plans for 10 reactors on the coast in the 60s anf the environmentalists shut them off then.
If they couldn’t get them approved 50 years ago there’s no chance today!
The endangered species act is FEDERAL, not state, but I quess you don’t know that.
Was it my imagination, or did the crowd boo every time the RAT congresscritter tried to speak?
STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.
FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.
Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.
And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.
This is just like the 2001 water crisis. The government taking water that doesn’t belong to them.
Thanks for the thread, Jeff.
Do that and turn the valves on with a huge crowd around. The Feds then move in to stop them. All the while the media is covering the growing scene.
Obama seems to cave when his actions are exposed to masses of Americans.
It might work.
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