Posted on 08/03/2009 2:12:53 PM PDT by Calpernia
There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.
The original one posted in breaking news:
One of the modified ones:
The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.
This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP
The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.
Yeap, it does
Check this out
Do a google search for exactly this Bomford Obama -Bamford
- there is a Michael Bomford who comes up all over the place that seems to be big into the “global warming” hoax.
Just one of those things that make you go hmmmmmmm
Between that, the online COLB, and the contemporaneous newspaper announcements, it seems most likely to me that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii- as Dr. Fukino stated.
But people will believe what they want to believe. I believe I will have another drink. :)
Just curious how you found this haystack needle. Thanks.
“And speaking of the Governor of Hawaii, consider what is the likelihood that government officials will lie to you in any given situation (I’ll let you assign a probability).”
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If it is to their benefit to lie to you the chances that government officials will lie to you is approx. 99 44/100 percent.
The Bomford family may not be too thrilled with all of these strangers suddenly investigating them.
I would be upset if it happened to me.
I looked at it closely and it appears that KF Lavender is K.F. Lavouder. Could someone else check this out? Thanks.
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Yes
SO. Is it relevant that the email address for the webmaster aka Bomford is not valid?
You said — Taitz told WND that the man that gave it to her was in fear of his life and didn’t want to be identified. She also said an expert had looked at it before it was submitted to the court.
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Sounds like that eBay scammer, “Lucas Smith”... :-) From an earlier post of mine on this item.
‘Birth certificate’ seller vanishes into thin air
Dubious eBay character dodges agent, lawyer, verification team
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104495
WND also launched an investigation into “colmado_naranja,” which led through several online aliases and reported collaborators, including Dawnella Wilson, “InspectorSmith” and, eventually, Lucas Smith, a former resident of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, who still claims to have possession of the document.
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“I’m going to have to meet with my attorney before we can go any further,” Smith told WND in a phone interview. “I’d rather have a middle man go between WorldNetDaily and myself.”
Smith did then authorize a public relations agent to speak on his behalf and hire an attorney, but after several unsuccessful attempts to get Smith to offer any proof of the document’s authenticity, the agent has since withdrawn his representation, fearing that the alleged birth certificate sale may have merely been a money-grabbing fraud.
The agent, Sean Boyer, is a Pennsylvania businessman who contacted Smith through eBay. He told WND his goal was simply to help bring the alleged document into the light for possible verification.
WND negotiated with Boyer on how best to coax further information from Smith and worked behind the scenes to prepare processes for authenticating or disproving any document Smith might produce.
“The Obama birth certificate that I listed on eBay was not a hoax. I repeat, NOT A HOAX,” Smith insisted.
When pressed to produce evidence of his claims, however, Smith told WND in an email, “I won’t be bullied into posting a video. I won’t adhere to any time deadline.”
“I stated I wa
s going to make a video and then go to WND and Joseph Farah, but I never gave a timeline for that,” Smith told WND over the phone. “In retrospect, I shouldn’t have mentioned that.”
Smith’s hesitancy to cooperate eventually cost him the support of his agent and lawyer, too.
“Smith has broken promise after promise to deliver on his claims,” Boyer told WND.
“On Sunday, July 19, it had been five days without a response from Smith, after a number of attempts had been made to contact him by email and phone messages,” Boyer said. “Smith may be stalling for time as he attempts to sell whatever he may have privately through contacts that he told me he was able to develop while advertizing on eBay. Consequently, [Smith’s attorney] and I agreed to withdraw our representation of Smith, and he has been notified by email to that effect.”
Obama BC eBay seller bigtime scammer ( actually mentally ill it seems)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2284400/posts
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(make sure to read all the links her, the guy is certifiably isane)
This person appears to be a big time scammer On July 2nd, 2009 salsero96 says: A fter searching for information on this person colmado_naranja on eBay, or Inspector Smith on Youtube...
It appears to be LUCAS SMITH as described in this photo on CBS news site: (you can compare his picture to the pictures on eBay)
http://www.cbsnews.com/2301-500142_162-4179689-1.html
If you search his name and city/state, you will get his address... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US319&um=1&q=%22Lucas%20Smith%22%20Cedar%20Rapids%2C%20Iowa&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw Lucas Smith (319) 362-0354 1626 5th Ave SE, Cedar Rapids, IA 52403
If you search for his address you will find a myspace page stating that the house has had sightings of the virgin mary and will be up for sale soon on eBay... http://www.myspace.com/houseforsalevirginmary
Here in that same myspace profile, you will find a picture displaying a similar ebay username:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=433779327&albumID=481404&imageID=3980456
Also, I ‘m not sure if this is the same person, but there was an incident here: http://blog.syracuse.com/news/2008/01/oswego_county_centerpiece_0116.html In late 2002, a man from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, sent an e-mail to the family. The man, who called himself Lucas Smith, said he was 23 years old and had emigrated from Russia five years earlier. He had seen the Web site and, Smith said, he wanted to help. The Wilsons stopped searching for a donor. Smith passed all of the medical, physical and psychological tests. They thought he was going to save their son’s life. Then, on May 3, 2003, Smith sent Jim Wilson Sr. an e-mail saying he wanted to be compensated for donating his kidney. Wilson said they would pay his airfare, but because it was illegal to receive money for an organ donation, they wouldn’t give him any other cash. Five months after holding out a lifeline, Lucas Smith disappeared.
Houses and Birth Certificates For Sale: At a Little Red and Orange Corner Store
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2284872/posts
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For 6th time, eBay ‘birth certificate’ seller erased
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2284369/posts
I haven’t posted in quite some time but I have been reading the news and comments here. I don’t have time to read every comment in these longer threads so please forgive me if what I noticed has already been pointed out by someone else.
I decided to download the pictures of the Kenyan BC’s posted at the beginning of this thread to see if I could see a difference, and indeed I did. The “K” in the original one posted is as clear as clear can be. And the “E” in the second was is clearly an “E”.
However that is not the only interesting thing I found. When I downloaded the original Kenyan b.c. to my file, the name of that file showed up as, “Obamas_Birth_Certificate_png”
When I downloaded the b.c. with the “E”, the name of that file showed up as “obama_kenya_bc_joke”.
Interesting, very interesting. I think the second one is a fake.
Wayback machine from 2006 shows David Jeffrey Bomford:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061013161323/http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeconcise.htm
“3g I0543 David Jeffrey Bomford, b 10 April 1959 at Adelaide, m 1981 I0546 Amanda Jane Sandover, b 1959, and had issue”
Unless the Wayback Machine is in on the conspiracy too.
Both images are now E.F.
I posted the original image on post #52 on the first thread on the Kenyan BC taken from the link on the thread. There does not seem to me to be any differences.
The claim of E.F. Lavender being K.F. Lavender is not the case. Both are E.F. As for the claim the font is Schmutz is someone's claim that has been pretty much debunked as the 4s on Schmutz are open but these are closed. As for the use of "O" for "0" (zero) many typewriters of the period did not have the numeral "1" or "0" and typists were trained to use the letter "l" and "O" for those numerals.
It's quite conceivable that there was some sort of British gov't specification for the layout of such forms throughout the Empire. But the odds of the District Registar and Registrar in Australia and in Kenya both being Miller and Lavender and furthermore refer to the same Book no. and Page no. must be astronomical. There is no doubt that one of these is fake, fake, fake.
If I had to choose, I'd tend to suspect the Kenya one is fake. The absence of a printer's name at the bottom edge of the form as compared to the Australian form makes me supicious.
Someone said that it had been disabled.
Here is a Richard Bomford who is a socialist(Fabian) from England??
http://beehive.courier.co.uk/default.asp?WCI=SiteHome&ID=12463&PageID=75578
No. I don’t think so.
I agree.
how do we know the david jeffrey bomford document is real?
Certainly, this new information certainly increases the likelyhood the obama doc is fake. And yes, increases the likelihood to very close to 100%.
But what about this far fetched scenario? Obama knows he has a Kenyan BC type document out there. He’s seen it. Knows exactly what it looks like. But does not know where every single one is. It’s 2007, and he’s running for President.
He tries to hide every one of his incriminating docs, but he knows that there might be a 1964 “bc” out there somewhere that might show up later. He knows that if the 1964 Kenya doc shows up, he’ll be hurt badly. He knows that people will be looking for anything. What can he do? He can try to discredit the real 1964 Kenya doc before it ever appears.
How, by taking his own Kenyan doc, and faking a doc for david jeffrey bomford. When people try to prove the Kenyan doc is legit, they find the bomford doc, and immediately assume that because the bomford doc and the kenyan doc are so similar, that the kenyan doc is the fake one.
One of the docs is definitely fake. The kenyan doc is probably the fake one. But it’s possible the bomford doc is the fake one.
And Obama loves you for your faith.
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