Heads Up - Multiple COLBS Warning [someone swapped out the Kenya BC AFTER it was posted]

Various ^ | August 3, 2009 | Various

[Calpernia]

There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.

The original one posted in breaking news:

One of the modified ones:

The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.

This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP

The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.

[Alice in Wonderland]

MOSSAD will gladly check out what she has found.

Maybe they did. Read this:

100 Days of being a laughingstock in Paris by Dr. Jack Wheeler

[Fred Nerks]

HA! I am so tired I could fall down, but still not too tired to recognize a rational comment when I see one...

What you wrote - I have cut and pasted AND E-MAILED IT TO MYSELF!

[El Gato]

“Be it enacted by the General Assembly, That all white persons born within the territory of the Commonwealth, and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act; and all who shall hereafter migrate into the same, other than alien enemies, and shall, before any Court of Record, give satisfactory proof, by their oath or affirmation, that they intend to reside therein; and moreover, shall give assurance of fidelity to the Commonwealth; and all infants, whenever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise, their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this Commonwealth until they relinquish that character, in manner as hereinafter expressed (expatriation); and all others not being citizens of any of the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.”

Nothing in there about "natural born". But notice it does require the father to be a citizen, or the mother if the father is deceased, for infants "wherever born" to be citizens at birth. He also has the immigrant children of "naturalized" parents becoming naturalized as well.

Obama would fail Jefferson's criteria for "citizen", but that criteria is no longer applicable because of the 14th amendment, which does not mention "natural born either, if Obama was born in the US. If he wasn't then he failed the 1961 test for "citizen at birth".

[mojitojoe]

:)

[STARWISE]

I betcha it’s true, too ...

[presently no screen name]

The Bomfords are real..

They aren’t available on the site any longer.

[mojitojoe]

I am completely lost now. Please fill me in. I’ve been following but got sidetracked. Bomford? The one on the Aussie BC?

[Swordmaker]

Jim, I posted the first copy of the Kenyan BC on FR in post #52 on the original thread. I still have the capture on my desktop and stored on my image hosting site. They are still the same, showing E.F. Lavender and 47,044.

The image I posted was never intended to be the subject of forensic examination. It has had too many graphical modification steps for that to be of any value. I captured it from the original Flash file linked by Orly's webpage at one specific resolution that filled the frame allowed, saved it as a PNG file on my Mac, then uploaded it to my file sharing site "ImageCave.com" which converted the PNG file to a 70% compressed JPEG for quick loading and display on the internet.

Here is that copy of the original I posted:

On this JPEG, the "E" does indeed appear to be a "K"... but I assure you that is an artifact of the process used to convert the huge PNG image file to a much smaller JPEG image file. Those conversions done to make the image more palatable for uploading and downloading for internet use are apparently the source of the blurring of the E to a K (or as some people claim a G) and the O to a 6. It stands to reason that detail will be lost when you go from an 879,641 byte PNG file to an 87,414 byte JPEG file. I don't think anyone is attempting to promulgate fraudulent copies... just copies that have been too manipulated from the original to be probative of anything.

This artifacting will be exaggerated as you magnify the JPEG and look at the simplified anti-aliasing that is created from the more complex anti-aliasing of the much more detailed PNG image.

One should always refer as closely to the original as one can get to be making these claims... and that original on Orly's site link is essentially IDENTICAL to the PNG capture I have on my desktop.

Can you help clear this up??? Let's either shut down the speculation about people creating deliberate bogus copies by TELLING people exactly what has happened? Swordmaker

[Bigh4u2]

Which part?

[mojitojoe]

You are correct. They are different.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

The Coat of Arms at the top of the birth certificate DOES appear to be correct.

According to this site, which has already been cited a couple of times in this thread, (http://www.ngw.nl/int/aus/southaus.htm) the coat of arms for South Australia between 1936 and 1984 was:

That site goes on to say as follows:

The arms also used a female figure holding a conucopia and a sheaf of barley, as well as a farmer holding a pair of shears and a fleece of wool as supporters. The crest showed a staff with a banner with the five stars of the Southern Cross and a lion. The motto was 'Faith and Courage.'

You can see that at the top of the Bomford birth certificate, the words "FAITH AND COURAGE" appear across the bottom of the arms, and you can see a man (no doubt, the farmer) on the right and a figure in flowing robes (no doubt, the female) on the left.

So, the coat of arms appears genuine.

[1000 silverlings]

bookmarking

[presently no screen name]

Can you fill me in on what does all this means now? I’m late to this party - but spent early a.m. to late pm on Sunday w/the long thread.

[pissant]

THe entire thing about this clown being out to get Orly. The Aussie BC looks more fake than the Kenyan Marxist’s one.

[mojitojoe]

Could it have been scanned and they didn’t get it all on the scanner?

[mojitojoe]

Techdude? MMhmmm, like I trust him

[mojitojoe]

Fun to watch isn’t it? Can they be more obvious? I’m watching them too.

[Bigh4u2]

“THe entire thing about this clown being out to get Orly.”

Someone posted earlier when this guy was on and said that he sounded ‘drunk’.

Drunks have a tendency to pump themselves up bigger than they really are.

They Aussie BC looks like it’s been ‘tampered’ with to me too.

[Technical Editor]

The guy who called Ed’s show is an obot from PJ.

Look, I’m on PJ and I’m here, too, but my loyalties are here with the sworn foes of Obama. I tell them at PJ who I am — and they tolerate me.

The saddest thing is that they are right about the law and we are right about the morality.

What do I mean?

The law cannot help us, and morally, Obama owes the country full disclosure. He’s not moral, though, so he’s not going to do it.

Legally, he has the right to not show anything more than is necessary to convince the State Dept. and the political parties that he is a NBC. Legally, we are up a creek without a paddle.

I hate it. I absolutely hate it, but that’s the truth. So I was really hoping the Orly BC was real. But I’m so sick of half-baked claims that when I saw Koyaan’s post on PJ, I wanted to spare Freepers from getting taken in the way Orly was.

All along I have said that we had to have authentication of the document itself.

I am not a troll. I think JimRob knows how long I’ve been here and can look up all my posts for the past 4 or 5 years and see that I’m a true conservative.

I am sorely disappointed that this was a fraud. However, maybe it’s not. I still DO NOT KNOW. But the fact is that none of us CAN know, no matter how perceptive and clever we are. You simply CANNOT tell anything for sure by a photograph.

If this was a fraud, it most certainly was committed by an obot.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Things are still getting hashed out...hopefully a summary can be written in a not to distant future....right now lots of discussion as to which of the (so far) three documents are a fake.