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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: little jeremiah
I was under the impression that the seduced girl was Jamaican and it was his first wife involved, not the one he was married to in HI.

I don’t have a dog in the hunt.

The book was thinly disguised FICTION, so he could call his characters anything he wanted. As I understand it, the purpose of the book was to tittilate the reader. It was PORN, after all. So, set it in another time, make the characters a different race, change the age slightly, but provide salacious details that will keep the reader captivated. Now it's hard for a writer to make up really salacious details unless they have some experience along that line. It can seem phony. That is why fiction is never truly fiction. It is always based on something. This time he didn't even really change the NAME.

Of course that is if FMD is the father. It's all baloney if he isn't. We'll probably never know.

8,981 posted on 08/12/2009 9:47:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Fred Nerks; LucyT; David; BP2; hoosiermama; Tennessee Nana; MHGinTN

A lot has been made of Tom Mboya’s airlift for Kenyan students to be admitted to colleges all over the US and whether Barack Obama Sr. received any support from them.

Barack Obama Sr. came here before the airlift was in effect. How did he get here? He certainly wasn’t the ONLY Kenyan ever to enroll in a US college.

My husband was an engineering student at Northwestern U (Evanston, IL) from 1956 through 1959. In his early years he was involved with International House there and was a dirctor of some of their activities (party planner). He got to know many International students. He bcame friends with a nice young man from Kenya, Nyoike F. Njorge, Mathematics, Class of 1959. What’s more, Nyoike had a brother who graduated from Stanford U a couple of years before with a Medical Degree, Dr. Mungai Njoroge, who went on to found the first African hospital in Kenya and staffed it with young US doctors. Dr. Mumbai Njoroge was featured on “This is your Life” with Ralph Edwards in 1959 and his brother and other family members appeared on the show too. Note that this was BEFORE the student airlift.

My point is that somebody got these students over here before there was any airlift, etc. Njoroge’s path was through universities in South Africa and England, since the Colonial authorities in Kenya would not supply him with the proper visas. He had to beg and borrow funds all along the way, arriving in this country with 3 cents in his pocket.

Neither Northwestern (Nyoike’s school) nor Stanford (Mungai’s school) were cheap in those days. And there was a third brother in school in Philadelphia at the same time. I am familiar with the tuition structure of both at the time. Both of those men are still living in Kenya according to Google (at least as recently as 2008).

Mumbai Njoroge (pronounced “jer-or-gi”) worked for Kenyatta as Minister of Health and Minister of Defense, among other jobs. According to reports he was Kenyatta’s cousin. He’s retired and raises roses for export now.


8,982 posted on 08/12/2009 10:12:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Dr. Njoroge

Stanford Medical Magazine Profile of Dr. Njoroge today

These are just personal observations from the time and people we knew.

8,983 posted on 08/12/2009 10:19:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MHGinTN
"Bee zar indeed! The question was on the townhall meetings, not the birth issue. Yet Gibbs rambled into the birth issue, then fumbled over where to have Barry born!"

Could be that the "talking points" were sent out...

Rendell: 'Birthers are absolutely nuts'

"Responding to a question on the fury demonstrated at numerous town halls, the governor asserted that “many of these people are birthers.”

The birthers are a perfect slice of these people who have lost their rationality and they have become obsessed with certain things, and that obsession is hurting the democratic process,” Rendell said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” referring to the conspiracy theorists who believe President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

“The birthers are absolutely nuts,” he said. “They won’t believe the clear and credible evidence that President Obama was born in Hawaii.” "

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26026.html

I wonder if that "clear and credible evidence" that the Gov is refereing too is the now infamous jpeg of an alleged HI short form floating around in cyber-space.

8,984 posted on 08/12/2009 10:28:40 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: afraidfortherepublic

airlift history:

http://www.journalofamericanhistory.org/teaching/2008_12/article.html

footnote 25 makes it clear obama sr arrived in Hawaii before the first Kennedy trust sponsored airlift.


8,985 posted on 08/12/2009 10:34:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: rxsid

Clearly, there Rendells who do not want to know if this affirmative action liar is ineligible. No matter what is presented to them that calls into question the ‘proof’ they have hanged their faith upon, they will reject it for the irrational reason that if it were true that what they have banked upon is invalid they will have been fooled, and ... read my tagline.


8,986 posted on 08/12/2009 10:37:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Fractal Trader

That release was based on a report from a California Senate report in 1970, when Barry was 10 years old. It’s possible that 10-year-old Barry was the Soetoro referred in the Cali Senate proclamation, but I doubt it. I think it was for a graduate student at UC-something named Soetoro. Maybe it was a reference to 10-year-old Barry Soetoro as a fifth-grade exchange student in San Francisco, but I doubt it.

Ms Taitz can be very sloppy, unfortunately.


8,987 posted on 08/13/2009 12:22:00 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s possible but doubtful that Stanley Anne changed Barry’s Indonesian name from Soetoro to Obama —again, possible but doubtful. When do you think this would have happened, 1970? How close was Stanley Anne to the Indonesian magistrates at that time?


8,988 posted on 08/13/2009 12:24:02 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Chief Engineer; Fred Nerks; mojitojoe; hoosiermama; LucyT; STARWISE
As I understand most variants of different theories as to where Obama may have been born (excluding Hawaii, of course), the prevailing theories on probable location of birth are Kenya and Canada.

I want to explore the Canadian theory, using some notes from Freeper Chief Engineer from a short while back, which I've updated with recently-discovered facts. Chief Engineer pieced together much of this with her endless hours of research:

Ann likely had a “shotgun wedding” and then discovered her husband was a rake willing to become involved with any number of co-eds. The little tidbit Frank Marshall Davis wrote in his biography was the teaser, “...a Kenyan student split, leaving behind TWO pregnant blondes”. Also, in Messages From My Father, Obama Jr references threats by Ann's father to attempt to cancel Obama Sr’s visa if he wasn't cooperative.

Her parents likely sent Ann to her mother's friend in Seattle (likely in Spring 1961 after the purported marriage) and the friend made arrangements for Ann to go to an unwed mother's home in Vancouver (there are a handful of choices, including a prominent home that closed in ‘68) where she could have given birth and also given the baby up for adoption. This would explain why Ann didn't know how to change diapers — contact between mothers and babies at such a home wasn't encouraged.

Ann's parents had arranged this deal with her, telling her that they would pay for her to attend Univ of Washington after the birth (which she had wanted to do anyway). Her high school friends at the time had already commented about the fact that if they encountered blacks while they were out they would cross the street to avoid them. The scandal of a white girl giving birth to a black baby would have driven Ann out of the Seattle. However, Vancouver B.C. was quite experienced in dealing with many different races and intermingling.

HOWEVER, once Ann gave birth, she changed her mind and asked her mother's friend to come and get her and Obama Jr in Vancouver. The SAME friend of Ann's mother lent Ann the car for the Susan Blake visit in late-Aug 1961.

Arriving back in Seattle, Ann phoned her parents in Hawaii and told them that she decided to keep the baby. This prompted her mother Madelyn to register the birth with the state of Hawaii.

IMPORTANT NOTE: In 1961, the word of an immediate relative was sufficient to register a birth in Hawaii, unlike now when they ask for documents such as medical check-ups from before birth, well-baby records, etc.

This notification from Madelyn to the state of Hawaii explains how Obama’s CertificaTION says that the (LOCAL) Registrar FILED the form as a vital statistic on Aug 8, 1961, instead of the form being ACCEPTED by the STATE REGISTRAR, as we see with nearly all other CertificaTIONs. This registration by Madelyn also helps to explain the the newspaper birth announcement originating via formal notification from the state.

Madelyn, being the mortgage administrator at Bankoh, knew of a safe address to use and her registration of birth generated the birth announcement. As some people have said, it was a pretty long-term conspiracy to register a birth and have a birth announcement in the paper — it all happened automatically once Madelyn filed the paperwork for her daughter in Hawaii.

None of these happenings in 1961 were obviously ever about a future run for the presidency. From Madelyn's standpoint, it was about “preserving her daughter's honor” while lending legitimacy to the birth.

In late-1962, Ann notified her parents she was coming back to Hawaii now that Obama Sr had left for Harvard. They rented the apartment for her at 1427 Alexander St, Apt #110.

She once again moved in with her parents at the home at 2277 Kamehameha Ave when she registered to attend the spring 1963 semester at UH at Manoa. BTW, Madelyn's co-workers didn't know she had a grandson until Jr arrived at the bank one day after he began attending Punahou in early 1972. Grandpa was his companion and grandpa was the one who was instrumental in Jr attending Punahou.

8,989 posted on 08/13/2009 12:35:27 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

http://www.reformation.org/frank-marshall-davis-obama.html


8,990 posted on 08/13/2009 1:28:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: BP2
“... I can't tell you why somebody believes, despite all
preponderance of the
evidence, that the president was born umm ... in uh ... uh
... is born here and
not somewhere else ...”

Only the preponderance of the evidence Gibbs?

What Gibbs you don't have the proof? You're not completely sure to where Obama was born?

Come to think of it, Obama has never publicly stated to where he was born. Last month during the Major League All Star game, when the birth issue started to heat up, Obama in St. Louis only admitted to growing up in Hawaii. Obama are you afraid to say where you really was born?

8,991 posted on 08/13/2009 1:58:07 AM PDT by Red Steel
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An Historical Archive

http://www.theobamafile.com/

IT’S BACK UP!


8,992 posted on 08/13/2009 4:46:04 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Natural Born 54
I found this little bit of flotsem at a link on this long, long thread that could explain the "naughty picture file":
"He also ran a nude photography studio which welcomed blacks and whites!!"

Link

That passage describes Frank Marshall Davis' early days in Chicago and referred to Davis. Do you suppose he was the photographer for the Naughty Ann pictures? Got her drunk, sexualized her, and then took the photos? Those photos were not taken with a Brownie. They have a professional air to them.

Furthermore, if he had taken those photos to the local drugstore to be developed, he probably would have been arrested. So, he most likely developed them in his own dark room, or he had a friend in the photography business who would develop the film on the sly.

8,993 posted on 08/13/2009 5:43:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: BP2

If I were Ann and was looking for a Hospital just over the boarder I think I would pick “Peace” ARCH in BC.

http://www.peacearchhospital.com/

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=15521+Russell+Avenue,+White+Rock,+BC+V4B+2R4,+Canada%E2%80%8E&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=DhGESuyeG8KFtgfPweWvCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1


8,994 posted on 08/13/2009 6:13:07 AM PDT by GregNH
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To: GregNH

I would ask for birth certificate number 9000


8,995 posted on 08/13/2009 6:16:45 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Fractal Trader

It has been alleged that Orly Taitz was able to get into the records of foreign students in California and found a listing for Barry Sotero. Obviously, that is not consistent with your position. I don’t have too much invested in either side of the debate in terms of what he called himself at Occidental, but, having heard about Taitz’s research, I am inclined to believe that his legal name while at Occidental was Barry Sotero.

the info came from an April fools joke posted on the internet....


8,996 posted on 08/13/2009 6:17:09 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: faucetman

I would ask for birth certificate number 9000


8,997 posted on 08/13/2009 6:17:32 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I would ask for birth certificate number 9000 if I could


8,998 posted on 08/13/2009 6:18:28 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

YES


8,999 posted on 08/13/2009 6:18:58 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

YES


9,000 posted on 08/13/2009 6:19:21 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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