Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Yes.
I don’t have any faith in our CIA or FBI anymore. Not with these goons in charge. Today has proven that Obama and the democrats are above the law now and no-one is going to do a thing. Sorry..I am just very discouraged about our country today. If a president of the USA can send out goons to beat up the citizens in this country that are excercising their constitutional right to free speech(with nary a word from our media), I feel all is almost lost.
All is not lost.
I am sure there are some in tnose organizations - and also the military - who have not surrendered to the dark side.
Rhodesian BC a fake? District of “Bul” awayo and the surname is “Bul” grien? Is that a joke? It is obviously written with a “Sharpie”. Did they even have Sharpies in 1969? European? Is that like African? That seal at the top of the page looks too much like the seal of New York State for my liking. Kenneth A Bulgrien is an “INFORMANT” can we trust him? Also it says “signature or mark” He did neither so this document is invalid. What’s with that cross-out at the bottom? What is it hiding? This document is VERY SUSPISIOUS, I think it’s a fake.
a BORN citizen is identical to a Natural Born Citizen and is distinguished from a “naturalized citizen.”
NONSENSE. Did the 14th amendment REPEAL article II? NO. Does the 14th amendment address “natural born” NO. so Article II STANDS unchanged.
Actually, “natural born” is not determined by the 14th Amendment (note that the words in the 14th amendment say, persons born in the US are “citizens”, not “natural born citizens”.) There is a difference- the constitution is very precise in its wording.
Reading this will help:
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/natural-born-citizen-us-constitution-kerchner-update-august-6-2009-founding-fathers-obama-not-natural-born-citizen/
Also, if that is the case, then why all this effort about the BC? If he is disqualified on this simple basis, then what happens next?
An article was written no long ago referencing "Obama losing control of the military" because of this mess. One way or another thus must be resolved now.
You’re probably right about them caring about WND. I do think, from comments I’ve seen in various places, that WND is viewed as a bit of a fringe overly religious site. That’s why I thought they wouldn’t break as much of a sweat over WND’s content. Now about FR absolutely see that. The number of deep sleeper trolls is amazing.
We’re thinking in parallel thoughts. see 7915
Ah, the now famous Salamander version?
The US Constitution references de Vattel's Law of Nations, or did you add that in for emphasis?
I didn’t want to use her name as she has been embarrassed enough and I’d already told her I forgave her...Her intentions were good.
The Constitution is the supreme law, and it contains legal terms, with a specific, known definition evident in the writing of them. There are many terms of art used in the Constitution, not just in the one instance referring to "natural born citizen."
The only confusion as to the intended, original meaning of the term "natural born citizen" arises from deliberate obfuscation created by a tortured interpretation of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment dealt with extending the rights and obligations of citizenship to former slaves. It did not and does not, however, alter eligibility requirements for the office of President.
Well, I’ve been falling behind these last few days, and I’m tryin to get back up to speed.
I pray you are right, our country is at stake. I truly believe that Obama is trying to inflame the situation on purpose. He is a very evil man.
It would take a constitional amendment and I am not ready for one of those just yet
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Why?
Constitution flawed to you?
New signup .. Aug. 4 ... welcome to FR.
That pretty much clears it up for me, so isn’t the Ortiz move “moot”? because all she is trying to prove is that Obama is ineligible to be President and therefore is not officially the President of the United States. This would seem to be rather cut and dry to me, but I am not a Constitutional scholar by any means.
I agree .. hang in there.. ;)
“A Republic, if you can keep it”
She was only trying to make it legible.
Can’t believe it’s still discussed, Sal ;)
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