Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Please elaborate.
Yes, he’s hiding something — most likely Obama is not his father, and thus the elaborate African saga that his grandparents originated and his mother fostered is as counterfeit as he. His true paternity or place of birth won’t jeopardize his eligibility, but would seriously damage his credibility.
Most of the other theories, foreign birth, Indonesian passport, foreign-student registration, Manchurian candidate, elaborate Communist plot, Malcolm X, etc., are the kitchen-sinkism that both give him cover and a valid excuse to mock the excesses of “the birthers.”
I would guess yes but I want proof one way or the other. I was no big deal when they were all over McCain about being born in Central America.
I expect all the President's of America to follow our Constitution even if they hate it like Obama does. Without our Constitution our country is nothing.
We now have a dead body with connections to Barack Alias Obama’s passport file. We now have a very significant retaliatory action being taken against at least one challenger.
So, yes, there’s something very, very wrong in the land of skittles and unicorns. The “lightworker” that we were promised has turned out to be just another “lieworker” with all sorts of unsavory associations and beliefs.
He needs to be challenged in every possible way to mitigate the damage that he has planned for this great country.
I disagree.
It would be a very powerful tool for his opposition.
I know him as the Kenyan.
I do not recognize him as president and refuse to do so. There is no law that says anyone has to recognize him as president. He was a traitorous racist who was out to destroy my culture and is no friend to loyal Americans.
I will obey the law and not break any laws, that is all I am obligated to do. If the Kenyan passes a law I will obey it. But he is not my president.
hehehe...Now why would anyone think that? Amongst the hundreds of things that bother me, I'll give you two that really really worry me:
Only ONE human being maintains they have ever seen Stanley Ann and Obama Sr together in Hawaii, and that's Neil Abercrombie...
And the other, is he was sworn in a second time in private, no camera, no microphone, no video. Just one image of him with his hand up - we don't what was sworn or WHO was sworn. Do we?
Yes, many, many things. Like his grade transcripts.
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Langdon Cheves, in February of 1814:
The children have a natural attachment to the society in which they are born: being obliged to acknowledge the protection it has granted to their fathers, they are obliged to it in a great measure for their birth and education. … We have just observed that they have a right to enter into the society of which their fathers were members. But every man born free, the son of a citizen, arrived at years of discretion, may examine whether it be convenient for him to join in the society for which he was destined by his birth.
Rep. A. Smyth (VA), House of Representatives, December 1820:
When we apply the term “citizens” to the inhabitants of States, it means those who are members of the political community. The civil law determined the condition of the son by that of the father. A man whose father was not a citizen was allowed to be a perpetual inhabitant, but not a citizen, unless citizenship was conferred on him.
The constitutional requirement for the President of the United States to be a natural-born citizen had one purpose according to St. George Tucker:
That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to he dreaded more than the plague.
The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom.
… The title of king, prince, emperor, or czar, without the smallest addition to his powers, would have rendered him a member of the fraternity of crowned heads: their common cause has more than once threatened the desolation of Europe.
To have added a member to this sacred family in America, would have invited and perpetuated among us all the evils
of Pandora’s Box.
http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html
“Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?”
ABSOLUTELY! There would be no reason to hide the information and no reason to spend so much money in the process unless there was damaging information to be seen.
Yes, he’s hiding something and it’s important, whatever it is. For a while, I thought it might simply be something embarrassing to him and something that would reveal his touching stories about himself to be made up out of whole cloth. In other words, it would ruin his image, and since image was all he had, it could be disastrous for him both politically and personally.
But increasingly I am beginning to think that it is something that makes him legally unqualified to hold office. I’d tend to think it has to do with his possible Indonesian citizenship, but who knows?
We know absolutely nothing about this man, including his real name. Everything about him has been hidden. I think he’s keeping the birth certificate hidden for one of two (contradictory) reasons. Either it is the key to finding out other things OR he is, like a magician, trying to keep people focused on it because there actually is nothing damning in it...but instead there is something somewhere else that he doesn’t want us to see or to attempt to find. In any case, he’s lying about something and it’s serious.
Lat year I rode the ferry boat from Zamboanga, Philippines to Malaysia. Met two Muslim businessmen, we were talking about Obama. They never heard or read his father was a Muslim.
I told them he was. They said based upon the father being a Muslim, Obama is a Muslim, nothing can change that. Told them he is denying hes a Muslim. They got angry about that.
They went on to say, he must know he is a Muslim and denying it to get elected.
If he his denying his true faith given to him from his father. He has to be lying about many things in his life, including his birth.
Thanks Abe Lincoln for getting us into this mess.
Yup. It’s why he won’t release his personal documents from his birth certificate on down through his college records...
The REAL Barack Obama is imprisoned in a castle dungeon somewhere in Provence and kept in a Iron mask.
His evil twin Barry Sorento ,(nobody knew there were twins, it was kept a secret even from his mother) with the help of the Minister of Unknown Stuff ,A.K.A Carl Rove. has seized the throne of America
Dr. Rove will soon join George Bush in revealing this sinister plan.
Yes.
As arrogant as BO is, he and his minions would have shoved the BC in everyone’s face if there were nothing to hide.
I would like to know what reason he is giving his staffers as to why he won't put this to rest. Gibbs looked very uncomfortable when asked at a press conference about it. I'm thinking even he is nervous about what's being hidden.
uhbama is used to skating. He may or may not be a natural born citizen, but he certainly has done a great deal to keep his nation unsettled by refusing to PROVE he is a citizen...and it is supremely unsettling to know he has spent over 900,000 dollars on legal fees on lawyers to make certain his history-as well as his origins-are not disclosed.
But speaking of his history, his failure to provide even his passport used to travel to Indonesia and Africa, his college financial statements, etc is also very creepy and upsetting to those who feel he is an imposter.
He may be gifted, using oration to lie and waffle, like bill clinton did, but he is not worthy of the presidency acting like man who does not care that many of the citizens he serves desire normal proof of his qualification to be our President. He acts like a man who has a great deal to hide. Maybe he does this to keep those who did not vote for him agitated. Obviously, he had made it known that he is only there to serve democrats, not the entire nation, and he reminds us of it very time he is challanged-"Because I WON!"-(and don't you forget it
We know his dirtbag associations...we know nothing of his schooling, finances or origins. And neither do the sick liberals who voted for him.
“The House voted to proclaim Obama natural-born but if this were provably true, why bother?
And if Obama is lying in wait to embarrass the Birthers, why telegraph it with a House vote, when producing the BC would be a knockout punch?
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Two very good points- I agree.
He’s a lying fraud, and he has been concealing ALL the records that would show who he really is.
Yes, I believe that he’s hiding something and that it is sufficient to have him declared ineligible and removed from office. I also think that the higher ups in the democrat party know this and as such, believe that such a revelation will cost them their jobs.
I also find it strange that the only ‘facts’ we have about his birth and life are those that he has offered himself, such as his autobiography, something we know to be largely made up and that we suspect to have been written by someone else. I think that the man came to Chicago largely as a blank sheet on which leftists were able to write a tale to present to the USA, and that his ticket to this country was underwritten by various leftists, as were his tickets to various other countries such as Pakistan. I think that once he was in Chicago, he was welcomed with open arms and nurtured carefully into his appointed task.
Yes, I think that there is more and I think that the whole reason that the racial issue with Gates and Crowley made it to the White House recently was that the truth about Obama is close to being revealed and that this was a measure used to protect Obama. I think that he did not realize just how the masses would react and that the ‘beer summit’ was a reaction to that-damage control.
Yes, he’s hiding something and the truth, I think, is close to coming out. I also think that his handlers are coming to see him as a liability.
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