Posted on 07/30/2009 8:35:25 PM PDT by Edward Watson
The entire birther argument, that Obama was actually born in Kenya instead of the US, making him ineligible for holding the office of the President of the US, is a spurious argument. It plays into Obama and the liberals hands - they want this to continue since it makes regular conservatives and opponents into fringe wackos.
Not one of us would've looked harder at his legitimacy than Hilary Clinton and the entire Clinton smear machine during the Democratic primaries. That magic bullet would've given Hilary the presidency - and yet nada, bupkis.
There are many valid reasons to oppose Obama and the liberals, but his birthplace isn't one of them.
This is an IQ test folks...
One of the most outstanding comments I've ever seen on this issue. And, patently obvious to all, but the most brain-dead among us.
I buy that the bc conspiracy is a booby trap for conservtives.
I can’t disagree with a thing you wrote....good post.
To allay your fears a bit ..
#1. His is almost certainly born in Hawaii and a state of Hawaii employee wouldnt put their career on the line to lie about a birth record. It says his birthplace is Honolulu.
#2. Even if there were some irregularities, he will never be removed over it.
"Getting rid of Obama in this manner doesn't really solve the problem, and it will create the JFK-like 'legend' that Obama didn't accomplish all the great things he would havd accomplished because 'the man' drove him out on a technicality..."
Yes indeed. Obama is a mediocrity and an unfortunate side-effect of this birther conspiracy theory is that it makes Obama out to be more exotic than he really is. He was born in Hawaii and has been an American leftist, not a muslim or a foreigner, for his whole life.
Source?
“Pretty smart of the family to put a fake announcement in the paper in 1961,”
I will humor you only ONE more time.
I have no doubt that a certification of birth was obtained
for Obozo.
It is standard procedure for a list of certifications to be
sent to the paper, from the registrars office.
His family had nothing to do with it.
It does not prove anything about his birth.
I never said he was born in Kenya, as I have NO idea where
he was born, and neither do you, because Obozo REFUSES to
release his REAL birth certificate. Why is that?
Since you are new here, let me show one to you.
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg
Now, go away. I have no use for trolls,
Can you dare to rise out of the gutter of ad hominems just because you dont agree with another freepers questions?
Find the allegation for yourself. I don’t care what you think of it, because your logic says to you that two newspaper reports trump the missing long form birth certificate. That speaks for itself.
Yes, there’s no evidence other than two very close relatives of Obama saying they were there. Other than that you’re right on target.
Not likely. Yes your comments are steeped in that.
“US Dual Citizenship: The U.S. government allows dual citizenship. United States law recognizes U.S. Dual Citizenship, but the U.S. government does not encourage it is as a matter of policy due to the problems that may arise from it. It is important to understand that a foreign citizen does NOT lose his or her citizenship when becoming a U.S. citizen. An individual that becomes a U.S. citizen through naturalization may keep his or her original citizenship. However, as some countries do not recognize dual citizenship, it is important to consider it carefully before applying for U.S. citizenship.
Dual citizenship is a complex issue and it is important to understand that there are not only benefits but also obligations that comes with being a dual citizen. Being a citizen of two countries means that you need to obey the laws of both countries, which may include paying taxes and serving in the military.”
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/dual_citizenship.html
I know many dual citizens, its not a problem for them.
What say ye now?
Another deep sleeper troll emerges.
Amen!
Please, show me proof he wasn’t born in America.
I have yet to see that. At all.
I guess it annoys you that someone could have a differing opinion.
But, keep it up, the fringe of the party will bring down the rest of the party, hope you enjoy the effects of that.
Still only insults and no facts? These are simply questions, really. Why do you seem so defensive and unable to answer them?
Classice ad hominem logical fallacy.
All you have to do to keep a bogus conspiracy theory spinning is to reject all contrary evidence as a pack of lies.
If you want to read a conservative website tell you that Obama was born in Hawaii, go to National Review, Coulter, Malkin, American Spectator, heck go *ANYWHERE* except birther central, aka Farah’s WND, and they will ALL tell you the birther conspiracy theory is BS.
Obama was born in Honolulu. Accept it and move on to next issue.
Don’t know what you are talking about since social security numbers have nothing to do with nation of birth.
Wasn’t too long afterward that he was back out of the country, going to a madrassa. He’s not just a vanilla lefty.
Simply questions? How about these:
Where is the birth certificate?
Where are the college records? (After all, we knew GWB was a "C" student.)
“Why? Because you have proof of his legitimacy? OR Because you believe zero would never lie”
You misunderstand. I said it was a nut “story,” meaning the media—not just the MSM but pretty much the whole of it—has framed it that way.
In reality, demanding he release his records is not nutty. Arguing born citizens aren’t natural born citizens is a little out there, but not nutty either. Asserting he was born in Kenya without proof is. The last part is what the media is focusing on.
I’d like to see a lot of things, BC, his school transcripts, his SSN’s etc. Little things that the MSM would DEMAND to see if Obama was a republican.
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