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bama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials (Fukino says Obama is NBC)
Honolulu Advertiser | 7/27/09 | Danny Nikaso

Posted on 07/27/2009 5:54:29 PM PDT by pissant

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http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; obama; obroma
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; pissant; Uncle Chip; freekitty; DallasMike; bareford101

Obama’s not being a natural born citizen described here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2299541/posts


201 posted on 07/27/2009 8:10:04 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: nathanbedford; Star Traveler
I carefully read your post, and I understand now why it will be unlikely to find a court willing to make a judgement.

Our experiment in self-rule rests upon a foundation of honest good will. Evil men can surely find plenty of ways to frustrate and scam the system.

Ok...So?...I agree with Star Traveler. We absolutely must pressure our legislatures to pass laws to demand long form birth certificates....But...What will the Marxists think up next?

I am very saddened. Yes, I find the uncertain status of Obama disturbing, but I am far more concerned and upset that our foundation of honest good will is crumbling.

For me the scales fell from my eyes during the 2000 election recount. The Marxists in charge were determined to scam the system. They were not people of honest good will with a commitment to making our experiment in self rule work.

After the 2000 election recount I will **not** have a Marxist for a friend. This includes **all** Democrats and some Republicans. They are either too stupid or too evil.

202 posted on 07/27/2009 8:12:47 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RummyChick

The divorce papers state that Ann and Obama were lawfully married on 2/2/61 and were man and wife until the divorce proceedings. The divorce papers also say they had one issue, Barack Obama II.


203 posted on 07/27/2009 8:13:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nathanbedford

One more thing:

May God save us. I pray.


204 posted on 07/27/2009 8:13:38 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RummyChick

No, no, and it has not been established.


205 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DallasMike

Although Wikipdedia is little better than hearsay, it does put an important qualifier before it discusses the term “natural born” citizen as it relates to the 14th Amendment, to wit: “...Although only dealing with the concept of citizenship and not necessarily natural born citizenship”...

ex animo
davidfarrar


206 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:15 PM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: MHGinTN

I have no idea..but a poster upthread made an interesting comment. Don’t know how he knows this:

To: SirJohnBarleycorn
The Hawaiian law does not embrace selective release. It countenances either release of “the record” or not.

This pronouncement doesn’t wash.

80 posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 9:39:47 PM by MortMan


207 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“U.S. out of wedlock provision if he was born in Kenyan. 12 month residency required.”

Problem with this part is that if out of wedlock and born in kenya, Stanley could not pass on US citizenship since she did not live in the States for 5 years after the age of 14. So, he would not be a US citizen and not even close to Natural born.


208 posted on 07/27/2009 8:14:32 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: bvw
In September 2008, Doctor Fukino issued the following statement:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. (http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html)

I don't think any doubt can be entertained that her subsequent statement is meant to embrace the original longform birth certificate.


209 posted on 07/27/2009 8:15:13 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: RummyChick

Here’s a link I googled. Scroll down the page and you will see some divorce papers. See what you can make out of it.

http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-divorce-papers-via-plainsradiocom.html


210 posted on 07/27/2009 8:17:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

It doesn’t matter what the divorce papers say. They can put anything they want in there. This family was a bunch of liars.

There was no lawful marriage on that date. There may have been a marriage but it wasn’t a lawful one. Obama certainly knew he was already legally married. Ann may not have known.


211 posted on 07/27/2009 8:17:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Paradox
What would satisfy me would be ALL and I do mean ALL medical records and vaccinations from birth up to the election on Nov, 2nd. PLUS all records from Occidental and Columbia. At this point I think the fix was done on the BC issue. Based on the fact that Rahm took off to Africa for 3 weeks right before the inauguration and Odumbass was in Hawaii at the same time, add in that bizarre power outage in Hawaii while he was there, that has been fixed. I think they are still leery it might not wash and there may be some embarrassing info, but the time to to get that was before it was even mentioned as an issue. Someday people will learn to play your cards very close to your chest in regards to these sort of things. Once you make it a big deal, they have more reason to fix it and I think the fix is in. I also think we have a lot of people running around that should be in prison for doing it, but the Lord works in mysterious ways and his polls numbers may be his ultimate punishment for his receipt. I will never believe he was born in Hawaii until he proves it. I do believe the fix was taken care of in December.
212 posted on 07/27/2009 8:18:11 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: RummyChick

I am just going by what the divorce papers say.


213 posted on 07/27/2009 8:18:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Polarik; pissant; LucyT; STARWISE; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP
NBC. No Birth Certificate. Why spend a million to suppress a ten-dollar document.

214 posted on 07/27/2009 8:19:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: wintertime
Your words are poignant. For me, I am saddened more that there appears to be little actual forced resistance to the criminal work of the demcorat party. We saw blatant vote in Florida yet no one was ever prosecuted for the crimes. Following that display, the Republicans did little to change the system to stop vote fraud from continuing elsewhere and we saw it surface with a vengence in Minnesota and Al 'I'll steal anything' Franken. Neither politcal party acts like they are determined to preserve the Constitutional Republic.

And just in case you need another reminder, the issue of slaughtering alive unborn children has been an empwerment scheme for demcorats for decades and Republicans have done a feckless job to change the holocaust when they have taken control, so they use it as an election turnout issue.

215 posted on 07/27/2009 8:19:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RummyChick

It gives Obama another connection to Cambridge, MA since his father was residing there at the time of the divorce. I would think attending Harvard as stated in the past. I do wonder if they say he hardly saw his father; if he really did see him while he was in Cambridge at that time or any other time in Cambridge.


216 posted on 07/27/2009 8:22:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: newfreep

Something is definitely happening behind the scenes. So much defensive posturing on the BC as well as negative press on health care & Obozo’s racist behavior. Something’s happening out there and what it is ain’t exactly clear.
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I agree. I think that lawsuit from the officer and other military speculating and not trusting him has much to do with it. I think he is afraid he will be forced to show it.


217 posted on 07/27/2009 8:23:39 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: battletank; DallasMike
This is about as clear as the Supreme Court has ever gotten to what a citizen is let alone a natural born citizen. Obama was born a British subject and then a Kenyan citizen, therefore he cannot be natural born even if he was born in Hawaii:

"SLAUGHTERHOUSE CASES, 83 U. S. 36 (1872), Page 83 U. S. 73

To remove this difficulty primarily, and to establish clear and comprehensive definition of citizenship which should declare what should constitute citizenship of the United States and also citizenship of a State, the first clause of the first section was framed.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States."

It's quite clear in the US Supreme Court Slaughter House cases, their opinion, that the above I have underlined for you, even if Obama was even born in the United States he wasn't under jurisdiction of the US and therefore NOT a natural born citizen.

218 posted on 07/27/2009 8:24:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MHGinTN

I think your on the right track. Things have just gotten a hell of lot more complicated for Zero.


219 posted on 07/27/2009 8:24:51 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: RummyChick

her comment means that Obama SR IS NOT THE FATHER.
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I agree.


220 posted on 07/27/2009 8:25:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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