Posted on 07/27/2009 5:54:29 PM PDT by pissant
Title and link only
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials
Obama’s not being a natural born citizen described here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2299541/posts
Our experiment in self-rule rests upon a foundation of honest good will. Evil men can surely find plenty of ways to frustrate and scam the system.
Ok...So?...I agree with Star Traveler. We absolutely must pressure our legislatures to pass laws to demand long form birth certificates....But...What will the Marxists think up next?
I am very saddened. Yes, I find the uncertain status of Obama disturbing, but I am far more concerned and upset that our foundation of honest good will is crumbling.
For me the scales fell from my eyes during the 2000 election recount. The Marxists in charge were determined to scam the system. They were not people of honest good will with a commitment to making our experiment in self rule work.
After the 2000 election recount I will **not** have a Marxist for a friend. This includes **all** Democrats and some Republicans. They are either too stupid or too evil.
The divorce papers state that Ann and Obama were lawfully married on 2/2/61 and were man and wife until the divorce proceedings. The divorce papers also say they had one issue, Barack Obama II.
One more thing:
May God save us. I pray.
No, no, and it has not been established.
Although Wikipdedia is little better than hearsay, it does put an important qualifier before it discusses the term “natural born” citizen as it relates to the 14th Amendment, to wit: “...Although only dealing with the concept of citizenship and not necessarily natural born citizenship”...
ex animo
davidfarrar
I have no idea..but a poster upthread made an interesting comment. Don’t know how he knows this:
To: SirJohnBarleycorn
The Hawaiian law does not embrace selective release. It countenances either release of the record or not.
This pronouncement doesnt wash.
80 posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 9:39:47 PM by MortMan
“U.S. out of wedlock provision if he was born in Kenyan. 12 month residency required.”
Problem with this part is that if out of wedlock and born in kenya, Stanley could not pass on US citizenship since she did not live in the States for 5 years after the age of 14. So, he would not be a US citizen and not even close to Natural born.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. (http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html)
I don't think any doubt can be entertained that her subsequent statement is meant to embrace the original longform birth certificate.
Here’s a link I googled. Scroll down the page and you will see some divorce papers. See what you can make out of it.
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-divorce-papers-via-plainsradiocom.html
It doesn’t matter what the divorce papers say. They can put anything they want in there. This family was a bunch of liars.
There was no lawful marriage on that date. There may have been a marriage but it wasn’t a lawful one. Obama certainly knew he was already legally married. Ann may not have known.
I am just going by what the divorce papers say.
And just in case you need another reminder, the issue of slaughtering alive unborn children has been an empwerment scheme for demcorats for decades and Republicans have done a feckless job to change the holocaust when they have taken control, so they use it as an election turnout issue.
It gives Obama another connection to Cambridge, MA since his father was residing there at the time of the divorce. I would think attending Harvard as stated in the past. I do wonder if they say he hardly saw his father; if he really did see him while he was in Cambridge at that time or any other time in Cambridge.
Something is definitely happening behind the scenes. So much defensive posturing on the BC as well as negative press on health care & Obozos racist behavior. Somethings happening out there and what it is aint exactly clear.
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I agree. I think that lawsuit from the officer and other military speculating and not trusting him has much to do with it. I think he is afraid he will be forced to show it.
"SLAUGHTERHOUSE CASES, 83 U. S. 36 (1872), Page 83 U. S. 73
To remove this difficulty primarily, and to establish clear and comprehensive definition of citizenship which should declare what should constitute citizenship of the United States and also citizenship of a State, the first clause of the first section was framed.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States."
It's quite clear in the US Supreme Court Slaughter House cases, their opinion, that the above I have underlined for you, even if Obama was even born in the United States he wasn't under jurisdiction of the US and therefore NOT a natural born citizen.
I think your on the right track. Things have just gotten a hell of lot more complicated for Zero.
her comment means that Obama SR IS NOT THE FATHER.
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I agree.
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