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Time for a change -- to the Constitution (to allow Obama to be Prez)
Oregon Live ^ | 7/27/09 | Melanie Mock

Posted on 07/27/2009 9:20:26 AM PDT by pissant

The drumbeat of discontent from the so-called "birthers" has started again. Nearly six months after President Barack Obama was inaugurated, fringe members of the conservative party are finding public platforms to argue that Obama has no right to the presidency because he does not have a valid U.S. birth certificate.

Never mind the bigoted undertones of these claims, the unspoken assertion that because Obama does not look like "us," he is not American.

Such rumors take on an even more sinister hue when birthers rant that Obama is trying to cheat "us" -- that he really was born in Kenya, and that his mother doctored the birth certificate or, more egregiously, secreted Obama to Hawaii from Kenya only days after his birth, then secured a U.S. birth certificate for her foreign-born son.

Although these claims are, at best, ludicrous, they should also compel us to consider why the Constitution bans foreign-born U.S. citizens from presidential office -- and to amend the Constitution so that questions about birth certificates and origins of birth no longer matter. In doing so, U.S. citizens, like my two sons, might be eligible for the country's highest office.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; constitution; forgery; hawaii; kenya; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; occidentalcollege; oregon; oregonian
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To: pissant

http://www.georgefox.edu/academics/undergrad/departments/writing_lit/FacultyPages/Melanie_Springer.html
1. Okie hippie
2. Combs her hair with a fork
Conclusion:
Guilty!


21 posted on 07/27/2009 9:32:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (`For the first time, I felt proud of my country.' Michelle Obama)
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To: pissant

Why bother to change, if 0bama is telling the truth???


22 posted on 07/27/2009 9:33:31 AM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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To: freespirited

In the mind of a leftist,
your (ie, the founders’) reasons would be completely invalid.

Since they are in the past,
obviously they don’t have as much knowledge
as those living now,

so their reasoning cannot be given any weight
in comparison to even this author,
who has more information than the founders
due to the fact she’s living NOW,
and they were living THEN.

Remember, this is just an analysis of how leftists
like the author think, and not my position.


23 posted on 07/27/2009 9:35:40 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: tumblindice
Education
Melanie earned her PhD at Oklahoma State University in 1999 with a concentration in Composition and Rhetoric and Modern American Literature. Her dissertation: Journeys of God and Country: The Narrative of American Mennonite Conscientious Objectors and the Great War. She earned a masters in English Literature from the University of Missouri-St. Louis in 1994 with a concentration in Writing Theory. Her thesis: Evenings at the Bird and Baby: The Inklings as a Model For Contemporary Collaborative Theory.
24 posted on 07/27/2009 9:37:20 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: pissant

Melanie Mock, eh?

Psalm 1:1
Blessed are those
who do not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers


25 posted on 07/27/2009 9:37:20 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: pissant
What I got from 'Melanie Mock' (gimme a break), was something different than what everyone else sees.

I think her point is that many, many Americans are not natural born citizens. And they want to be President someday. So, they see it as an unfair part of the 'law'.

That is why they do not worry, or object to the possibility Obama is not a 'natural born citizen'.

from http://contexts.org/socimages/tag/foreign-policy/

26 posted on 07/27/2009 9:41:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: pissant

Ironically, a lot of the arugments in favor of her adopted children being eligible to be POTUS do not apply to Obama. Her boys are growing up with a very, typical American experience. Obama did not.

His father, who he is named after, was a Kenyan, socialist (at best) who came here on a student visa and returned home shortly after Obama was born. After this, Obama was adopted by another foreign national, and spent his formative years in a largely anti-American, Islamic nation. He was somehow able to travel to Pakistan in 1982, when it was illegal for Americans to do so.

I remember, during the campaign, Chris Matthews (with a thrill going up his leg, no doubt) glowingly spoke of him as being “a gift to us from the world”. I don’t know about “gift”, but Matthews was right in that Barack Hussein Obama (even if we assume he was indeed born in Hawaii) is in many ways a foreigner, who has come from “the world” as opposed to from an American experience.

While the framers were probably not thinking of those adopted at 3 months old, and raised in America, by American citizen parents, they probably were thinking of individuals like Obama when the wrote the natural born citizen requirment into the Constitution.

That is not to say, Obama should be inelgible if he was born in Hawaii. However, I do wish the American people would have demonstrated some of the wisdom of the founders, and not elected a candidate with so many foreign ties.


27 posted on 07/27/2009 9:44:13 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: pissant
Never mind the bigoted undertones of these claims, the unspoken assertion that because Obama does not look like "us," he is not American.

You have no leg to stand on when you just make up bullcrap like that.
28 posted on 07/27/2009 9:45:08 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: TLI

Personal Interests
Melanie’s non-academic interests include her two sons, Samuel and Benjamin, running and watching good shows on television.
And as a liberal `egg-head’ she enjoys sharing her feckless, lefty political positions with the world while phrasing them, as do most “progressive” academics, as categorical statements.


29 posted on 07/27/2009 9:45:28 AM PDT by tumblindice (`For the first time, I felt proud of my country.' Michelle Obama)
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To: pissant
fringe members of the conservative party

Which party is that?

the unspoken assertion that because Obama does not look like "us," he is not American.

It's unspoken because no one has asserted it. And no one has asserted it because it's ridiculous. His looks have absolutely nothing to do with it. But libs can't pass up an opportunity to play the race card. Against BHO's health care plan? Racist. Against tax hikes? Racist. Support upholding the Constitution? Racist. ...etc.

the infamous Joe the Plumber has an easier chance of ascending to the country's highest office than [my Vietnam-born sons] do.

lol...infamous? In Melanie's eyes, conservatives are all rotten, and the well-known ones are "infamous."

my 7-year-old foreign-born sons know more about U.S. history and politics than most of their peers, given what they hear at home from their politically obsessed parents

Poor kids -- brainwashed daily by fanatical, mean-spirited, socialistic parents. One can only imagine the historical revisionism regurgitated in that household.

30 posted on 07/27/2009 9:48:07 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: pissant

Ms. Mock’s email addy: mmock@georgefox.edu


31 posted on 07/27/2009 9:52:46 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: pissant

What’s ludicrous is that no one from the President’s family, or nayone who knows him can tell the same story as anyone else.

According to friends and family;

He was born in 2 different hospitals in Hawaii and another one in Kenya.

His parents were single, married, or not seeing each other when he was born.

His birth announcement lists an address that no one in his family ever lived in.

Now that’s ludicrous.


32 posted on 07/27/2009 9:57:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Cicero
Perhaps a Constitutional lawyer could correct me, but I have heard it said about repealing the two-term limitation—that the repeal would not apply to someone who was already in office.

It should. There are exceptions for people in office at the time of adoption, but otherwise the plain language should allow a second-term president to run again if it were no longer in effect. This of course depends on the language of the rescinding amendment. While it would be hard to push such an amendment through, it would be nearly impossible if it let the current president stay in office because cries of "dictator for life" and "power grab" would be legitimately all over the place.

Likewise. if Obama were forced out and this idiot's amendment passed, Obama would be free to run again at the next election unless the rescinding amendment stated otherwise.

33 posted on 07/27/2009 9:59:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Diogenesis

I have to say I’ve never seen the state election entry form. In which case couldn’t any registered voter of the state of AZ sue to see the BC? In that the AZ Secretary of State is acting on behalf of the voters?
And then there’s the question of his mother being legally able to confer citizenship?


34 posted on 07/27/2009 10:03:03 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: pissant

I fart in her general direction.


35 posted on 07/27/2009 10:04:55 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: pissant
For $10

Not even. All Bambi has to do is to waive his privacy rights in regard to birth information that the State of Hawaii and its hospitals have in their files. We'll pay for the certified copies.

ML/NJ

36 posted on 07/27/2009 10:06:16 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: pissant

I seriously doubt that even 10 states could pass through with 66% of the vote this amendment.


37 posted on 07/27/2009 10:09:01 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: NMEwithin
Whoa! What a concept! Next time I have to register a child for school or enroll him/her in summer soccer, or next time I apply for a passport and am required to send a copy of my birth certificate, not certification, I'll call bigotry!
38 posted on 07/27/2009 10:09:27 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Sprit of '76)
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To: ml/nj

I’ll by the pizza and the beer for the press conference.


39 posted on 07/27/2009 10:10:53 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
How we gonna do this? You're pretty far away.

ML/NJ

40 posted on 07/27/2009 10:15:23 AM PDT by ml/nj
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