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Unemployment Worse with Stimulus than Without
CNS NEWS.com ^ | Monday, July 06, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 07/07/2009 2:43:34 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: "(CNSNews.com) – Unemployment hit 9.5 percent in June, according to the Department of Labor, putting the figure 2.5 percent higher than the White House had predicted it would be if a government stimulus spending program went into place. Moreover, the new figure is nearly one percent higher than where the White House said it would be without any stimulus spending at all.

In fact, the White House never predicted that unemployment would rise above nine percent regardless of whether Congress spent the nearly $800 billion in so-called economic stimulus spending it recommended at the time.

The predictions came from a Jan. 10, 2009, report issued by Christina Romer, now chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, and Jared Bernstein, currently Vice President Joe Biden’s chief economist. The administration used the report as both a blueprint and a justification for the $787-billion spending package Obama signed in February."

SNIPPET: "Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) said that the record high unemployment was a sign that Obama’s signature legislation had been a failure and added that more spending was not the answer to a deepening economic crisis."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhostimulus; democrat; democrats; economy; impeachobama; obama; unemployment
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1 posted on 07/07/2009 2:43:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
But if they had not spent all that money we don't have stimulating the economy, just think how much WORSE it would have been...

/channeling moonbat crap. Shower time for my brain...

2 posted on 07/07/2009 2:45:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Why of COURSE!

This Rat Congress is going to pay through the (electoral) nose for this folly.


3 posted on 07/07/2009 2:49:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This Rat Congress is going to pay through the (electoral) nose for this folly.

I wish I shared that sentiment. However, the mainstream press (including the alternate liberal press, such as Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart, etc.) will tell most of the people in the country that it really WOULD have been worse. They will then blame Republicans for not working harder to help the Demonrats get the economy going. Sadly, I fear that most of the sheeple will buy that line.

I hope I am wrong and that you are right.

4 posted on 07/07/2009 2:56:39 AM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS
I really hope that you are wrong about all of this.

If we don't get Congress back in November 2010, our Republic is done for.

5 posted on 07/07/2009 3:07:38 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: BruceS

I really have always believed that the public perception of the general economy is shaped by personal observation more than by the national media telling us what the numbers are. People see and hear their own stories; I think what we’re seeing and hearing doesn’t seem too good , no matter how Axelrod spins it. A wave of increased state and local tax increases is going to start reinforcing that soon.


6 posted on 07/07/2009 3:13:21 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Cindy

Christina Romer, now chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors,and she still has the job? oh wait another Obama logic plan what a bunch of fools.


7 posted on 07/07/2009 3:13:32 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Prole

Bush and the Hastert/Lott Congress increased spending more than LBJ.

Half speed socialists RINO’s need to go. Unfortunately they are the cadre of the RNC/GOP.


8 posted on 07/07/2009 3:21:00 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Cindy
The so called stimulus plan has never been about improving the economy. It is about expanding government to advance socialism. It's part of the Cloward-Piven Strategy
9 posted on 07/07/2009 3:23:49 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Cindy; All
For some reason the trolls & disruptors who plague Gateway Pundit go MoonBat Crazy each and every time he posts these charts- I guess the plain truth is more than they can handle:

Unemployment obama

Chart-stimulus-swindle

Debt

Can't have mere "facts & figures" interfere with their beloved "narrative," can we?

10 posted on 07/07/2009 3:26:53 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Cindy

That Must be why the Obamas Children are moonlighting as Models ,to bring in some extra cash


11 posted on 07/07/2009 3:32:16 AM PDT by ballplayer
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You’re kidding? The same children who they’re so “careful to shield from the public eye?” (When convenient)


12 posted on 07/07/2009 3:36:20 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Leisler
“Bush and the Hastert/Lott Congress increased spending more than LBJ.”

Perhaps in raw dollars without adjustment for inflation. I think the appropriate measure is as a percentage of GDP. I doubt they increased spending by more than LBJ relative to GDP.

I've seen a chart of the Federal debt relative to GDP. The only spikes are during world war II, FDR, and in projections under Obama.

13 posted on 07/07/2009 3:55:54 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: gusopol3

I agree. However, Obama is still in his honeymoon phase with the American public. He benefits from the perception he inherited a bad situation from Bush and is being given credit for trying.

Six months from now Bush will be a faded memory if unemployment is in double digits and still climbing. The hundreds of thousands of private sector employees downsized in the 4th quarter of 2008 and first 6 months of 2009 will be coming to the end of their unemployment benefits in 6 months. If unemployment is still rising and they can’t find jobs they will be angry with Obama and not Bush. Assuming rising unemployment means no recovery in consumer demand, companies will likely be executing another wave of employment downsizings in the fall. Those who are employed will look at their unemployed neighbors and fear the axe. The “hope” inspired by Obama will turn to fear. Conditions will be ripe for Obama and his legislative majority in Congress to become the focus of blame.

A lot depends on the ability of the opposition to come together and stay on a message that offers a real alternative. The Republicans demonstrated this ability in 1994 with the Contract for America. Today the Republican Party has no message and is allowing the opposition to define it. Leadership and a real message is needed to take advantage of the opportunities coming to awaken the American people.


14 posted on 07/07/2009 4:12:14 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Cindy

15 posted on 07/07/2009 4:18:56 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: Cindy
All of the taxes and subsidies on deck have a paralyzing influence on the economy. If a business owner thinks that his taxes will be going up if he expands, then he will wait to expand to see what the exact terms and percentage are so he can either avoid it or live with it as a smaller company. Similarly, if it looks like there is a chance for a subsidy of some type in the future he will wait until it is passed before expanding or spending. If there is a chance he can have a new building paid partially for government next year, he will hold onto his current building until then.

On the opposite side, there is no reason to delay shrinking a business. In fact there is even reason to accelerate layoffs as things are now because there is a chance that future legislation will make it more difficult or expensive to do that.

16 posted on 07/07/2009 4:28:52 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: backhoe

Great charts.


17 posted on 07/07/2009 4:40:44 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Good points.


18 posted on 07/07/2009 4:42:21 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: Cindy

They’ve only released less than 10% of the “stinuloss” money. The ostammer administration has possession of all that money to fund all their pet leftist groups and projects, and we’re not doing a damn thing to stop it.


19 posted on 07/07/2009 5:21:57 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Smokin' Joe

The other part of the equation is cap and tax. The way that fits in with unemployment is that they’re selling cap and tax as a boon to employment with all these supposed green jobs that will be created. Meanwhile, even though the ostammer administration has released less than 10% of the stimuloss, they are already nosing the trough for more. There has been recent talk about “Stimulous II”.

They want more, yet they still have 90% that they’re hording for themselves and their political friends.

It’s the biggest theft the world has ever seen. Meanwhile, they sent Bernie Madoff to prison for 150 years for doing essentially the same thing for considerably less money.


20 posted on 07/07/2009 5:26:58 AM PDT by bustinchops
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