H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread]

GuelphMercury.com ^ | June 24, 2009 | Raveena Aulakh

[metmom]

Within minutes, six-year-old Rubjit Thindal went from happily chatting in the back seat of the car to collapsing and dying in her father's arms.

"If we had known it was so serious, we would have called 911,'' Kuldip Thindal, Rubjit's distraught mother, said in Punjabi yesterday. "She just had a stomach ache -- she wasn't even crying.''

Rubjit was pronounced dead at hospital barely 24 hours after showing signs of a fever. Later, doctors told her parents she had the H1N1 influenza virus. She is believed to be the youngest person in Canada with the virus to have died.

[DvdMom]

TX:

More Tamiflu being taken than needed, doctors say

Posted Friday, Oct. 02, 2009
By JAN JARVIS
jjarvis@star-telegram.com
http://www.star-telegram.com/fortworth/story/1657357.html#none

After the quick flu death of a healthy Benbrook teenager this week, more parents are demanding that their children be given Tamiflu when they come down with flu-like symptoms.

“No question about it, more Tamiflu is being prescribed than is really needed,” said Dr. John Menchaca, a Fort Worth pediatrician. “But unfortunately the level of anxiety for families is currently quite high.”

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released about 22,000 doses of liquid Tamiflu to Texas this week, but it’s still being distributed to pharmacies and clinics, said Doug McBride, spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services.

There’s a limited supply in Tarrant County.

“Right now you can get Tamiflu, but it’s not easy,” said Dr. Donald Murphey, an infectious-disease pediatrician for Cook Children’s Medical Center in Fort Worth.

And what is available should be reserved for those who need it most, including pregnant women and people with underlying medical conditions, he said.

[DvdMom]

Saudi Arabia reports new swine flu deaths

Saturday, October 3, 2009
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/10031322.htm

DUBAI: With four new cases of swine flu deaths, the total number of casualties linked to the A(H1N1) virus rose to thirty-five in the country. Three Saudi nationals and a foreigner, who was not identified, were the latest victims who died on Thursday Sau di Arabia’s Ministry of Health Ministry said in a statement released to Saudi press agency.

However, the Ministry had earlier said that no swine flu death case was reported among pilgrims during the month of Ramadan. Meanwhile, in Qatar the Supreme Council of Health has confirmed that all schools in the country will reopen on October 4, even as a senior official highlighted the WHO recommendation for closure of any school with more than 1 percent of students infected with the H1N1 swine flu.

[DvdMom]

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/631513.html

Pre-Birth Exposure to 1918 Flu Raised Heart Risks, Study Finds

Whether same will hold true for current H1N1 strain remains a mystery

THURSDAY, Oct. 1 (HealthDay News) — People exposed to the deadly 1918 Spanish flu pandemic while still in their mother’s womb were about 20 percent more likely to have heart disease 60 years later, a new study has found.

[DvdMom]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-swine3-2009oct03,0,7452896.story

H1N1 and other flus off to an early start around the U.S.

The season kicks off with a CDC report that swine flu activity is widespread in 27 states, and outpatient visits for influenza symptoms are above normal everywhere but New England.

By Thomas H. Maugh II October 3, 2009

[DvdMom]

(( “There were no apparent underlying medical complications in this patient,” Troutman said. “ ))

http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=11248868#

Louisville woman dies from H1N1-related illness

Posted: Oct 02, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
Updated: Oct 02, 2009 5:22 PM EDT

LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) - Metro health officials have confirmed that a 41-year-old woman died from the H1N1 virus on Sept. 21.

Metro Public Health and Wellness Director Dr. Adewale Troutman said the woman died from lung disease, likely pneumonia, related to the H1N1 virus.

“There were no apparent underlying medical complications in this patient,” Troutman said. “Of course, our thoughts and prayers go out to the family for the tragic loss of this young woman.”

[DvdMom]

Thanh Hoa records first H1N1 death (Vietnam)
http://www.thanhniennews.com/healthy/?catid=8&newsid=52930

The central province of Thanh Hoa on Saturday reported its first swine flu fatality with a 63-year-old man succumbing to the disease.

The patient, whose name has not been released, started having mild fever and diarrhea on September 10, and was treated at home, said Director Ha Dinh Ngu of the Thanh Hoa Preventive Health Center.

When his condition did not improve, his family brought him to the local general hospital on September 20 where he was diagnosed as having critical pneumonia and shock caused by respiratory infection, and a blood sample was sent to Hanoi-based National Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology to test for the influenza A (H1N1 virus).

His condition worsened on September 21 and his family asked for persmission to take him home, where he died the same day, Ngu said.

Test results on September 30 confirmed the patient had contracted the swine flu virus.

Since swine flu was first detected in the country in May, more than 9,000 people have caught it. Twenty have died, but test results for two of them, including a 29-year-old man who died on Friday in Ho Chi Minh City, are still to be officially confirmed.

[DvdMom]

(( Neither child had chronic medical conditions that would have put them at heightened risk of complications from the illness, health officials said. ))

Five-year-old, infant die of swine flu (New Mexico)
http://www.dchieftain.com/dc/index.php/news/309-Five-year-old,-infant-die-of-swine-flu.html
Olivier Uyttebrouck 03 October 2009

The H1N1 flu virus claimed the lives of two New Mexico girls this week, including a 5-year-old Rio Rancho Elementary School student and an infant from Roosevelt County, the state Department of Health announced Thursday.

Neither child had chronic medical conditions that would have put them at heightened risk of complications from the illness, health officials said.

Trinity “Trin” Olivares, of Rio Rancho, died Monday evening (sept. 28 ), just a day after complaining of nausea, said the girl’s mother, Danelle Olivares, 31.

Trinity began feeling ill Sunday night and stayed home from school Monday as her nausea and vomiting became more severe, Olivares said. The girl’s parents took her to a hospital Monday afternoon, about three hours before her death.

Doctors said the girl was severely dehydrated and put her on intravenous fluids.

“She had no fever, no cough, no runny nose, no symptoms of the flu” other than nausea, Olivares said. The girl also enjoyed good health prior to Sunday night, her mother said.

“She was a very healthy little girl. She never got sick,” Olivares said.

Trinity also was keenly aware of discussion and news reports about swine flu and constantly washed her hands and even urged her mother to buy hand sanitizer, Olivares said.

Trinity recently started school at Rio Rancho Elementary after attending Shining Stars Preschool. Her father, Michael Olivares, supervises mail delivery at Rio Rancho Public Schools.

Funeral services were be held Friday, Oct. 2, St. Thomas Aquinas Parish in Rio Rancho.

The Rio Rancho Public Schools district notified parents by a telephone notification system Thursday evening.

Kim Vesely, district spokeswoman, said the district also planned to send a letter to parents today notifying them about Trinity’s death.

Vesely said the New Mexico Department of Health informed the district that the child died of H1N1 flu, also known as swine flu, after the department ran a preliminary test.

Chris Minnick, spokesman for the Department of Health, said the Roosevelt County infant died this week, but he did not know what day.

The two deaths bring to seven the number of New Mexicans who have died of swine flu, and 85 have been hospitalized as of Thursday.

A 21-year-old Los Alamos County woman who had no chronic medical conditions is among those who have died. Others include a Sierra County woman, 45; a Bernalillo County woman, 52; a Bernalillo County man, 58; and a McKinley County woman, 48. All four had chronic medical conditions, health officials said.

[DvdMom]

Doctor says S.C. mom dies from swine flu after birth

Published: Saturday, Oct. 03, 2009 / Updated: Saturday, Oct. 03, 2009 07:21 AM
http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/1646562.html#

The Associated Press COLUMBIA, S.C. — A doctor says a pregnant woman in South Carolina had died from swine flu shortly after giving birth.

University of South Carolina School of Medicine Dr. Anthony Gregg told WIS-TV that the woman had not received any kind of flu vaccine and her other children had gotten sick a few weeks before she died.

Gregg says the baby was delivered healthy and has yet to show any signs of the flu.

[DvdMom]

Budget affects flu drug supply
http://m.gosanangelo.com/news/2009/May/03/budget-affects-flu-drug-supply/
May 3, 2009

AUSTIN - A budget compromise two years ago led Texas lawmakers to spend less on the stockpile of medicine that has proven effective in battling the effects of swine flu.

[DvdMom]

Information for Healthcare Professionals - Authorization of Use of Expired Tamiflu for Oral Suspension

http://tinyurl.com/yc47bgd

10-02-2009

FDA is authorizing the use of certain lots of expired Tamiflu for Oral Suspension as part of the federal government’s response to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza public health emergency.

[DvdMom]

NCSU Raleigh NC

H1N1 Influenza (flu) Update
Updated and considered accurate on October 2, 2009. Since information may change, please visit this Web site and those listed below frequently for additional information and updates.

Student Health has diagnosed over 860 students with influenza or influenza-like illness, presumed H1N1, from August 17 through October 1, with additional cases diagnosed today. (Diagnosis is based on the CDC case definition of influenza-like illness or a positive rapid flu test for Influenza A.)

The breakdown includes 23 during week of August 17, 58 during week of August 24, 115 during week of August 31, 112 during week of September 7, 217 during week of September 14, 193 during week of September 21, and 146 the week of September 28 through the end of the day October 1.

Analysis of the over 860 affected shows a variety of majors, 50.3% male, 49.7% female, 92% undergraduate, 63.4% residing off campus, and 36.6% residing on campus at various residences.

IF YOU ARE ILL WITH FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS, FOLLOW THE CDC RECOMMENDATIONS TO SELF-ISOLATE (STAY HOME FROM SCHOOL, WORK AND SOCIALIZING) UNTIL AT LEAST 24 HOURS AFTER FEVER HAS RESOLVED, WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE FEVER-REDUCING MEDICATION. CONTACT A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER IF SYMPTOMS ARE MORE THAN MILD, IF DIAGNOSIS IS NOT CERTAIN, OR IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION (SUCH AS PREGNANCY, DIABETES, ASTHMA, LOW IMMUNITY, HEART, LUNG OR KIDNEY DISEASE) THAT PUTS YOU AT HIGH RISK FOR COMPLICATIONS.

http://www.ncsu.edu/student_health/whatsNew/influenzaupdate1.html

[DvdMom]

New Mexico

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/health/health_krqe_albuquerque_nm_officials_curb_h1n1_panic_200910021505

H1N1 claims 3rd young person this week

Updated: Friday, 02 Oct 2009, 8:45 PM MDT
Published : Friday, 02 Oct 2009, 3:05 PM MDT

Reporter: Crystal Gutierrez
Web Producer: Devon Armijo
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE)

[DvdMom]

Swine flu’s second wave seems to have arrived

Oct 03, 2009 04:30 AM - Toronto Star - excerpts

“The number of influenza cases in Canada is on the rise, reinforcing beliefs that the second wave of the swine flu pandemic has arrived. “The early indications are that it’s starting now and it’s expected to last a couple of months,” said Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, director of surveillance and epidemiology with the Ontario Agency for Health Protection and Promotion. Canada’s chief public officer Dr. David Butler-Jones has an emergency plan to seek earlier release of the vaccine. If the rate or severity of illness becomes extreme, he could ask the federal health minister for special permission to release the vaccine before clinical trials and larger international studies are complete.

However, Butler-Jones has said he expects the virus will continue to cause only mild disease in the vast majority of cases. Even if it’s mild, it will still put pressure on hospital intensive care units and emergency departments as well as on primary-care providers. “Our health-care system runs at 97 per cent capacity. There are many hospitals that I have worked with that run at greater than 100 per cent capacity. ... There is going to be competition for those beds, even in a mild pandemic,” Gardam said.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/704822

[DoughtyOne]

Yes , I post stories about swineflu deaths because that is swineflu news , & belongs on the swineflu thread.  And that may seem admirable, it's still not the whole story is it?  These articles contribute to a situation where people focus in on the terrible deaths, and don't have a complete understanding of the full scope of the whole influenza story.  Out here in California we have earthquakes.  After every earthquake the camera crews focus in on the worst demage they can locate.  They then transmit those photos/video to the nation explaining what terrible devistation occured.  Hey, the details they provide are accurate.  It's still not the whole story is it.  Then people back East flood the phone lines trying to find out how many of their relatives are still alive.  That is precisely what is going on here.  There is a focus on the terrible deaths, but no details about how most people have survived, and with no damage whatsoever.

Healthy children , young adults , & adults dropping dead within 4 days of getting the flu isn’t normal.  And people are also contracting this influenza and living.  Strangely, I haven't seen one report of that.

And in some of the cases I posted here they get the flu & there whole body shut’s down & they die quick.  And in many more cases, people's bodies don't shut down and they live.  Drat, what a sticky little factoid that is huh.

Like this case.  Here we go again...

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story/Teens-mother-speaks-out-after-son-dies-of/6bQV_8KVeEmN1kzXEk8t9Q.cspx

(((( Her son LaTowyn was a healthy, strong teenage boy. Then suddenly on Tuesday, the day before his 16th birthday, he complained of flu-like symptoms.

By Wednesday his body started shutting down.” And everything just got worse. His kidneys shut down. And then his heart stopped pumping on its own.” Just 48 hours after her son first became ill, he died. ))))))

How many times are you going to reference the above report on this thread?  It seems to be your go-to story.  This boy was one of two people who have died in the whole state of Oklahoma.  How do I know this, becuase you already pinged me to the original article.  How many people contracted this influenza in Oklahoma, but survived?  Well, you don't know do you.  So as bad as this report is, it's not the whole story is it.  This report is not actually productive.  It instills fear, but provides no useful information unless your sole goal in life is to terrify people.  This could be one person out of thousands who have contracted this influenza, but there isn't one word in the article about that.  That makes it impossible to view this information in perspective.  Is that productive?  It may be if your goal is to panic people.  And that's all I've been saying.  Provide the information, but lets get the full story out there.  Who are you, and what are your actual goals here?

This woman would be alive today if she was given Tamiflu

Flu Victim Family’s Statement
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-utah-third-deaths-family-statement,0,4966333.story

A Teacher who died from the swineflu

Waycross teacher dies after having flu-like symptoms (Georgia)
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11175111

This was another report that is as bad as the last was.  We have no way of knowing what the full picture is here.  Is this one of ten thousand people who have contracted this influenza, or is it one of five?  Is this an example of a 50% mortality rate or an example of a 0.0001% mortality rate?  Well..., we don't know.  And that's my problem with what you are doing.  You are only providing the terror inducing factoids.

Nurse Dies Of Swine Flu

Updated: Oct 2, 2009 04:53 PM EDT
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11249109

I can post many more true stories of doctors , healthcare workers etc ...

who died from the swineflu & you wouldn’t care...  Why would you possibly think I don't care?  That's a terrible conclusion to jump to.  Of course I care, but this is a clear indication of your thinking here.  If I object to one-sided terror inducing reports that don't provide a rational overview, I must favor people dying.  Good grief!  Is that truly what you think?  If so, that casts you in a fairly interesting light.

You worship the mantra of the 32,000 number to proclaim your righteousness...  I've worked in the medical profession for over thirty years.  I am familiar with what normally happens in the flu season.  Hospital counts escalate and people die.  That's the truth of it.  You have convinced yourself that only about 1250 people die from influenza each year.  I'm not going to be able to change your mind.  So be it.  For your estimation to be true, less than one person per hospital in this nation would die each year of influenza.  That is not the case.

You call me a panic / doomsayer for posting newspaper articles.  I have explained fully why my conclusion is clost to that.

If your best friend died from the swineflu , yes I do believe you will still shout to the masses that the swineflu is no big deal....  Parents, spouses, children, other family members, friends, and associates die every single year from influenza.  Every loss is a big deal.  Every loss is not a reason to panic.  Every loss is not a reason to publish another article on the 'pandemic' of influenza and try to scare the living bajeebers out of people.

The media could make a point of publishing an up close and personal accounting of every person that died from influenza each year.  It would scare people to death.  Would that be a good thing to do?  I don't think so.  Evidently you do.

I know many people in many towns & they never heard of the regular flu infecting so many people.  Well then you know many people in many towns who don't have a clue.  By making this statement you are also confirming something that I have brought up before.  We have many people who are infected with this influenza, and very few who are actually dropping dead.

I went to school & HAVE never heard of a classmate dying from the flu . It never HAPPENED before!  It happened before.  Good grief.  Many people die every single year from inflenza.  Children and the elderly are the two most at risk groups.  All of a sudden you are the expert on influenza and the CDC is just a no account organization that lies for whatever reason you think it does.

You never hear of schools shutting down etc from the regular flu.  That's because you have never seen the government and media hawking the idea that the 'pandemic' is here like you are this year.  The public health departments, the feds, the CDC, the NIH, and every mush for brain public education employee has had it drumed into their heads that this is it, the BIG ONE.  In the end we may see quarantines as a result, and in the end find out that no more than the usual number of people have died.  Is that what you want?

The swineflu was still going strong in the summer which is unheard of.  There was 'some' flu activity.  There was not a 'pandemic', as was predicted earlier this year.  Tens of thousands caught the H1N1 flu, and did not die.  You do realize that right?

Execept for cruise ship novirus cases I’ve never heard of something so contagious before.  Then you've never heard of influenza before.  Interesting.  Influenza just explodes in this nation each year.  While it's a bit early this year, it's still not way out of line.  I expect to see this influenza escalate just like other influenzas have.  I expect to see many deaths.  I expect those deaths to be painful for those around the patient.  They are every single year.

And then seeing this from the head of North Carolin’a Medical M.D. asking all healthcare workers to look out for Hemorrhagic Pneumonia which can be a fatal symptom of the swineflu.  A lot of people say a lot of things.  That does not mean they are true.  In cases like this where the hype is pegged to the max, a lot of things are said that shouldn't be.  Over this summer we have seen a lot of people infected with H1N1.  We had some deaths, but the populace by and large stood up well to this influenza.  There is good reason to believe people will continue to survive this influenza, despite some people dying.

http://www.ncmedsoc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/HemorrhagicPneumonia.pdf

You never hear of Hemorrhagic Pneumonia with the regular flu.  How many instances of Hemorrhagic Pnemoina are you able to document?  How many instances of H1N1 cases have there been?  How many people have died?  How many people have survived?

I would love for you to find me one article from 1969 to 2008 that has multiply schools closing because of the flu or children dying from a flu outbreak!!!!!  You are a part of a self-fulfilling prophecy.  There has been a massive effort to deamonize (if you will), this H1N1 Influenza.  Earlier this year, it was extremely frustrating to see all the hype with very very few deaths.  Every new outbreak was covered up close and personal.  Still, very few deaths...

Why are the schools closing?  I'll bet you can't guess.  Could it possibly be because of reports like the ones you are flooding this forum with, that make it sound as if every person who contracts this infuenza will die a quick horrible death?  Could it be because of the government agency press releases that have hawked the 'KILLER PANDEMIC' angle since the moment one U.S. Citizen contracted it?

I've never seen reason thrown out the window by so many people, as I have with this influenza outbreak.

I know teachers who have worked in the public schools , & they NEVER had a child die from the flu until this year...  You know so many people.  Very impressive.  Still, you don't know of one person who contracted H1N1 and lived.  Very strange...

[justsaynomore]

Well said, DvdMom.

Like LJ said - if you don’t like hearing this news, don’t read the thread!

If the news here really bothers you go start an anti-hype thread and leave those of us who care about this topic alone.

As if the pravda media and Obama’s death czars are doing a fine enough job discounting the seriousness of h1n1. Sheesh.

[DoughtyOne]

Okay, you have posted some survival stories. Good. How about folks who just toughed it out and survived? Are you aware that there are folks out there like that?

Is it your assumption that every single H1N1 person has been hospitalized or they died?

How many survived without Relenza? Do you know?

The media hypes these issues to the max. It makes good copy and draws public interest. What kind of a story would it make, “10,000 People Lived Today”? You won’t be seeing that story. You won’t be posting that story here.

That’s the invisible unreported story that I want folks to think about, as they ponder the calamity or not, that is about to befall them.

[justsaynomore]

How about folks who just toughed it out and survived?

If you took time to actually read the stories DVDmom posts, you would see they all come with the standard disclaimer that most people survive, deaths are rare, flu is mild, yadda yadda yadda. Guess what, most people survived in 1918 too. Oh, and it was mild too according to the govt. That is, until it wasn't.

[DvdMom]

I know many who had H1N1 and lived . I know many freepers who had H1N1 and lived .

I posted articles about people who had H1N1 & lived like this one

Canada:

Story of toddler stricken with swine flu has happy ending

By Carol Sanders, Winnipeg Free Press
September 16, 2009 5:03 AM
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/Story+toddler+stricken+with+swine+happy+ending/1999471/story.html

I also posted about the CNN medical doctor having caught the swineflu and being alive on this thread.

I post as many swineflu article that I can find on thread :)

I’m waiting for you to post the news article of schools being closed for the flu during the years 1969- 2008 .....

I’m waiting for you to post a news article of a healthy child in America dying from the flu during the years 1969- 2008 .....

[DoughtyOne]

The stuff I’ve read didn’t come with any disclaimer. Let me know when you’ve read the posts more closely.

Hysteria is not something we should push going into any flu season. Every year has the potential to go terribly wrong.

The recipe is always devised six months before it hits the medical facility shelves. There are always strains that are missed. There is always the potential for things to get out of hand. If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know this.

So this year is like any other year. We just don’t know. Acting as if we do, is just juvenile.

[ET(end tyranny)]

After fighting a valiant battle she succumbed to this illness. It has been reported that she had underlying illnesses that contributed to her death, but according to her doctors she died from lung damage, kidney failure, and brain damage which were all strong and healthy prior to contracting the virus.

Lawsuit?