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"Brotherhood" Invited To Obama Speech By U.S.
The Alantic ^ | 06/03/09 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 06/03/2009 1:58:44 PM PDT by markedmannerf

A sign that the Obama administration is willing to publicly challenge Egypt's commitment to parliamentary democracy: various Middle Eastern news sources report that the administration insisted that at least 10 members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the country's chief opposition party, be allowed to attend his speech in Cairo on Thursday. The brotherhood is a Salafist/ Islamist party with branches in many countries, and it does not have a reputation for liberalism and has supported violent campaigns against Israel (and Egypt's own government). It has deep roots in the region and traces its intellectual lineage to Sayyid Qutb, a top American-educated Islamic intellectual who was executed -- or martyred -- by the Egyptian government in 1966. The Brotherhood has direct links with Sunni groups like Hamas in the Palestinian territories. Its standing in Egypt has suffered as of late because of a crackdown by the Egyptian government and a growing frustration that it is too conservative (anti-women's rights, the whole gamut) for a modern Middle East. Still, it's the largest Sunni opposition party in the world, and it's clear that the Obama administration wants to engage the Sunnis -- even the less moderate Sunnis -- in his "Mutual Respect" tour. Hoping to tamp down criticism that by speaking in Egypt, Obama is giving legitimacy to Hosni Mubarak's quasi-dictatorship, the administration also invited leading human rights activists to the speech.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; democrats; egypt; hamas; hategroup; husseinobama; impeachobama; iran; islamicimperialism; islamicsupremacists; jihadists; mb; muslim; muslimbrotherhood; obama; proterrorist; qutb; waronterror
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; jveritas
I’m sure they’ll be GOVERNMENT translators which brings up the possibility that a word or two MAY be fudged so an exact translation isn’t available..

Are there any freepers who speak this language who can translate and compare to the official government version?


jveritas - can you help with Obama's upcoming speech in Egypt if it's delivered in Arabic?
121 posted on 06/03/2009 7:43:20 PM PDT by callisto (It's the three T's: Too Many Taxes, Trillions in Debt, and Transparency)
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To: callisto

I do not think that it will be delivered in Arabic but I will keep and eye on the Arabs reaction to the speech and post my findings here on FR if there is anything of importance in these reactions that is worth posting.


122 posted on 06/03/2009 7:49:34 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: angelcindy

If someone had told me on 912 we would elect a Muslim President I would have said they are nuts.


123 posted on 06/03/2009 7:51:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Gaddafi: Obama is a Muslim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IdRjnw8PhY


124 posted on 06/03/2009 7:55:31 PM PDT by Califreak (Stammer Lee, TOTUS and Beltway Bob have turned 1600 into a circus)
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To: Cincinna

They are already here. The U.S. Chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood was created in the 1960s. But to hide the true nature of their agenda, they have over the past decades created a bunch of front-groups that promote themselves as organizations protecting civil rights for muslims in the US.
These front groups include:
Muslim Students Union (the original front-group created to hide the term “Muslim Brotherhood” from it)
Muslim Youth of North America
Islamic Society in North America (ISNA)
Muslim Arab Youths Association
Islamic Association of Palestine (orginizations affliated with it were: United Association for Studies & Research, The Occupied Land Fund, and The Media Office)
Central Committee for Palestinian Activism in America
Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (new name for Occupied Land Fund)
Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) founded 1994


125 posted on 06/03/2009 8:00:26 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: markedmannerf
We can conclude three things from this past week: (1) Obama wants Iran to acquire nuclear weapons; (2) Obama wants Israel isolated and cut in half; (3) Obama will never criticize another Muslim, as evidenced by his complete lack of condemnation (or even mention) of the Riverdale Muslim cell or the recruitment center murderer, also a Muslim convert, as well as his invitation to his speech for the most radical Islamist group next to Al Queda, the Brotherhood.

The only question that remains: when will Barack Hussein Obama return to Islam? When will be re-convert back to his original religion? This term? Will he wait until 2010, or 2013 if re-elected?

126 posted on 06/03/2009 8:02:56 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: jveritas
Thanks! My expectation is that it will be delivered in English. But the MSM may carry the Arabic translation and provide an English translation if told Obama is presenting a "special" speech for the Muslim world. After the past 100+ days I put nothing past him or them. jv, your time and efforts are greatly appreciated by all of us!
127 posted on 06/03/2009 8:09:37 PM PDT by callisto (It's the three T's: Too Many Taxes, Trillions in Debt, and Transparency)
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To: Califreak

I agree. The Muslims are playing a game of “good cop - bad cop” to reach their eventual goal of Sharia Law in the US.
They know full well that the “bad cops = Al-Queda, etc” will bomb and commit acts of terrorism that works counterproductive to their goal in the short-term, but what it does is have the US government seek out what they percieve as “moderate muslim groups aka good cops” to formulate policy related to muslims living in the US and the middle-east.
These groups being Muslim Brotherhood front groups like CAIR & ISNA. These groups use the UK blueprint for Sharia Law creeping into american soceity and its laws.
Your seeing it right now with the activity of muslim organizations at universities demanding and getting footbaths, prayer rooms, muslim only hours at sports facilities and segregation of the sexes. Workers at companies demanding mandatory muslim prayer breaks & prayer rooms and suing them in court claiming religious discrimination if they don’t get them. The muslim brotherhood instructs these groups to use terms like “reasonable accommodation and civil rights” when what they really are demanding is islamic segregationist policies.
Barack Hussien Obama is a perfect tool to speed all this along. They see him as one of Sharia Law’s useful idiots.


128 posted on 06/03/2009 8:36:38 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: Quix

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129 posted on 06/03/2009 9:06:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (The American Revolution: 70% of the people were loyal to the King, The other 30% founded a nation.)
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To: mojitojoe

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Thanks.


130 posted on 06/03/2009 9:10:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Califreak

“I believe they are forgiving him due to the doctrine of al-taqiyya which basically says a muslim can lie about anything as long as it advances Islam.”

Obama was never officially baptized. There is no official baptism certificate to be had. He did one of those walk down the aisle and profess your faith thingies like used to happen at the Billy Graham evangelizing campaigns, but no official baptism. There is for the girls and Michele, but not for Obama himself. And the reason I believe he never got officially baptized was specifically because he knew it would be against his Muslim upbringing and he didn’t want to break the tie that bound. obama is still a Muslim deep inside himself. And now it is starting to resurface and become more obvious. I doubt he will find an official “Christian” church to attend while he is in office in Washington D.C. He hasn’t gone out of his way to find one so far, and he won’t in the future either, I suspect. If Obama could get away with it, I think he would overtly proclaim himself a Muslim again. He’s like Prince Charles of the U.K., he’s enamored of the Muslim religion, but won’t publicly declare it because of all of the flak he’d have to deal with.


131 posted on 06/03/2009 11:30:54 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: markedmannerf
Michael?


132 posted on 06/03/2009 11:40:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: All

Blog:

Note: The following blog entry is a quote:

http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/16922.htm

Report: Muslim Brotherhood MPs Invited To Obama Speech – At U.S. Ambassador’s Request

The Egyptian daily Al-Masryoon was informed that the invitation to 10 Egyptian MPs from the Muslim Brotherhood parliamentary faction to attend the speech by U.S. President Barack Obama at Cairo University was extended at the request of U.S. Ambassador to Egypt Margaret Scobey.

Source: Al-Masryoon, Egypt, June 3, 2009

Posted at: 2009-06-03


133 posted on 06/03/2009 11:59:39 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: markedmannerf

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (EGYPTIAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD MEMBER MOHAMMED ATTA FLIES HIJACKED PASSENGER JET INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER — See AL QAEDA, HAMBURG CELL)

JUNE 2009 : (OBAMA DEMANDS THAT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD BE REPRESENTED AMONG ATTENDEES AT HIS “SPEECH TO THE MUSLIM WORLD”)


134 posted on 06/04/2009 3:27:29 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Luckily we’ll all soon be asleep and this will be over.


135 posted on 06/04/2009 3:37:23 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: G8 Diplomat; spald
1970s late (AYMAN AL ZAWAHIRI AGITATES AGAINST THE EGYPT-ISRAELI PEACE TREATY) [Ayman al Zawahiri] obtained his degree in 1974 and practiced medicine for several years. His profession, however, was not his calling. By the late 1970s, he was back full-time in the Islamist revolution business agitating against the Egypt-Israel peace treaty (concluded in 1979). In 1980, on the introduction by military intelligence officer Abbud al-Zumar, he became a leading member of the Jama'at al-Jihad of Muhammad Abd-al-Salam Faraj which on October 6, 1981, assassinated President Anwar El Sadat while he was reviewing a military parade. ------- "Islamism, fascism and terrorism (Part 4)," By Marc Erikson, Asia Times, 5 December 2002

OCTOBER 6, 1981 : (ASSASSINATION OF ANWAR SADAT--- See JAMAAT AL JIHAD, FARAJ, ZAWAHIRI) An early convert to Sayyid Qutb's new-fangled fascist Islamism which condones, indeed commands, terrorism and murder was the alleged number two man of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. [see part 2]. Having joined the Muslim Brotherhood at age 15, he was caught in the Nasser dragnet after the 1965 assassination attempt on the Egyptian leader and—young age and elite family background notwithstanding—was thrown in jail. An April 1968 amnesty freed most of the brethren, and Ayman, in that regard following in his father's footsteps, went on to Cairo University to become a physician. He obtained his degree in 1974 and practiced medicine for several years.
His profession, however, was not his calling. By the late 1970s, he was back full-time in the Islamist revolution business agitating against the Egypt-Israel peace treaty (concluded in 1979). In 1980, on the introduction by military intelligence officer Abbud al-Zumar, he became a leading member of the Jama'at al-Jihad of Muhammad Abd-al-Salam Faraj which on October 6, 1981, assassinated President Anwar El Sadat while he was reviewing a military parade. [Muhammad Abd-al-Salam] Faraj, like al-Zawahiri, had been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but became disenchanted with its passivity....Following the Sadat assassination, al-Zawahiri was arrested on a minor weapons possession charge and spent three years in jail. In 1985 he [al-Zawahiri ] left Egypt for Saudi Arabia and later Peshawar, Pakistan, where he was joined by Muhammad al-Islambuli, the brother of one of Sadat's five assassins, 24-year-old artillery lieutenant Khalid Ahmed Shawki al-Islambuli. ------- "Islamism, fascism and terrorism (Part 4)," By Marc Erikson, Asia Times, 5 December 2002

more trivia:

1978 and/or later : (KUWAIT? : KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED JOINS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD - See HAMBALI , MBROTHERHOOD, ALQAEDA, 9/11) [KSM] joined the Muslim Brotherhood as a teenager and went to the US to study engineering in North Carolina. At that time the Afghan jihad against the Russians was in full flow. After graduating, Khalid headed for one of bin Laden's guesthouses in the Pakistani frontier town of Peshawar. He has told interrogators it was there that he first met Hambali. ------- "Al-Qa'ida 9/11 chief reveals US got off lightly," Sunday Times sources, The Australian, From The Sunday Times, March 29, 2004

136 posted on 06/04/2009 3:48:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TheThinker

The Devil has pulled one over on the American People....Lucifer is giggling with glee that he has a personal representative in the White House.


137 posted on 06/04/2009 4:00:50 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: G8 Diplomat

OBL was a MB member in the 1970s when he was in Saudi Arabia, in Jedda, I believe.


138 posted on 06/04/2009 4:09:50 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: taillightchaser
I wonder which one of zero’s toadies was tasked with bringing the prayer rug and the koran along on the apology tour?

Probably Steny Hoyer- he may as well be Obama's envoy to the Muslim Brotherhood. There was some controversy a while back when ol' Steny went on a "rogue diplomacy mission" to pander to them before - at a time when Condi Rice was refusing to meet with them, and Nancy Pelosi was in the Middle East kissing the butt of the president of Syria on one of her overseas adventures.

139 posted on 06/04/2009 4:18:48 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Marine_Uncle; Melchior
We have at this web site seen with our own eyes those pictures of zero and Sayyid Qutb sitting at a luncheon.

We have?

1966 : (EGYPT : EXECUTION OF SAYID QUTB ) The modern Islamist movement is captivated by the writing of Sayid Qutb, the Muslim Brother executed in 1966. Qutb hated the West with a passion and sought to influence Muslims to follow in the path of the early Muslim leaders -the Salaf, who were close to Muhammad. I know of no case where any Ikhwan leader has renounced the writings of Qutb. Nor, for that matter, has anyone in the Ikhwan renounced the Hamas charter. The Hamas, an Ikhwan chapter in Palestine, is devoted to the elimination of Jews in the Holy Land, and there is absolutely no question of living together in peace. None. Hoyer along with the ignoramus Pelosi demonstate that diplomacy should really be left to the professionals.------51 posted on 04/07/2007 4:34:52 PM PDT by Melchior

140 posted on 06/04/2009 4:27:17 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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