FOX just report on the petition for BHO BC

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[hoosiermama]

Fox news (Bret Bair) Just reported on the petition for BHO birth Certificate. Commented on the BC posted on the web and the questions regarding it. Reported 400,000 names on petition and had the WH newspersons comments.

[AZ .44 MAG]

Done. I PMed you a copy of the letter.

[frog in a pot]

Hey fella’, you have done a lot of heavy lifting on this project, thanks!
Here is my email to Brett:

Brett:

It is undeniable that Barack Obama’s father was not an American citizen. Some would argue that fact alone defeats any claim he is a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution.

Nonetheless, if he was born in a foreign country there is no question he is Constitutionally unqualified to serve as President inasmuch as his mother was statutorily underage at the time of his birth and was thus unable to convey U.S. citizenship of any kind.

If in fact constitutional lawyer Barack Obama is unqualified by reason of a foreign birth, and yet has fraudulently taken the office of the President, it will be a significant moment in our history.

America has a right to know whether its President is legitimate.

Thanks for your good work.

[azishot]

Just finished reading this thread and sent an email to Bret. Although mine wasn’t as eloquent as yours, I certainly gave credit to you and the research you’ve done.

[Gemsbok]

Very well done!

Thank you, Dr. Ron.

[Gemsbok]

Okay Katie,

Give us the REAL truth that FOXy news is hiding from us.

In 2 paragraphs or less: _____________________________________________________.

_____________________________________________________________________________

[Aurorales]

Nice letter. Thank you for all the work you do.

[Polarik]

If you must mention that you don’t trust Fact Check, do so in a manner that suggests it is cause for concern that they are the only “media” organization to have “seen” the alleged COLB and posted photos of it. Politely suggest that prudence would dictate that at least one other media organization should verify Fact Check’s findings, live and in person, not by examining more photographs of the COLB.

Thanks for all your compliments. Notice that I did call for the direct examination of this COLB by government officials and not by another "media" outlet, to directly verify its validity -- no purpose would be served by verifying Factcheck's findings as i have already done that.

I also have to say that Factcheck is not a "media" organization at all. It is a blog run by a liberal think tank at the University of Pennsylvania, the Annenberg Center for Public Policy, that is owned by the Annenberg Foundation with funding from by George Soros. Even an eight-year-old can see that Factcheck is overtly baised in favor of Obama.

It was Annenberg that gave William Ayers, the unrepentant domestic terrorist, a $30 million grant to start the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and it was Ayers who then hired Barack Obama to Chair the Board and work with him.

None of the staff that work for Factcheck have any special talents, training, or experience in doing empirical research and certainly not in the area of computer graphics. The Editor of Factcheck claims that the Obama Campaign did not invite them to visit, but that he asked the Obama Campaign if two of his junior staffers, who were going to Chicago for a conference, could stop by their office and take pictures of Obama's COLB.

Now, if anyone believes that story, then I have this bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

The staffer who wrote the story also took the photos. She used her personal digital camera, an older, inexpensive model ($130) that she took along for the conference. The staffer claimed to not be a photographer, and that is evident by her failure to correctly set the camera's date, and her taking of nine photos in a span of only seven minutes, with the camera set on AUTO everything.

As you can tell, this is not a matter of me simply distrusting Factcheck, but being aware of the major conflicts of interest exhibited whenever Factcheck claims to be objectively evaluating Obama's COLB.

In short, because of its complexity, I didn't mention it in my letter.

[Chief Engineer]

Not to mention their lack of any document expertise, Jessica’s B.A. was in the History of Science while her M.A. was in English Lit and his Phd was in Philosophy. The two hardly have any qualifications which would qualify them in any way to “examine” any document and validate it as genuine. As per their own resumes posted at factcheck.org for anyone interested in going there and taking a look.

[Fred Nerks]

FACTCHECK ABOUT US

Lori Robertson

Managing Editor, Annenberg Political Fact Check

Lori Robertson is a journalist who covered the media for nine years as an editor and writer for American Journalism Review, a bimonthly media watchdog magazine. At AJR, she won the Bart Richards Award for Media Criticism and an honorable mention in the National Press Club’s Arthur Rowse Award. Previously, she was the administrative director of the Casey Journalism Center on Children and Families, a resource center for journalists covering at-risk kids. She has written for various publications as a freelancer and is a 1993 graduate of Duquesne University with a B.A. in advertising.

Funny coincidence...it was a 'Lori' who sent the e-mail to TexasDarlin blog with the 'birth announcement' remember? Surely it couldn't be...THE SAME LORI?

[BuckeyeTexan]

I agree 100%. It absolutely should be a government agency that examines the COLB. I just don’t know if I would trust anyone in the government at this point, not because I suspect some grand conspiracy but because I know how “convincing” the Chicago thugs can be. The way these Chicago thugs operate, they’ll threaten anyone.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that they threatened the Governor of Hawaii and prepared that carefully worded statement for her. We only know a small part of what happened in the Chrysler bankruptcy, but we know that there were threats and we know that those threats worked. It’s hard to imagine what these thugs wouldn’t do to have their way.

[LucyT]

Funny coincidence...it was a 'Lori' who sent the e-mail to TexasDarlin blog with the 'birth announcement' remember? Surely it couldn't be...THE SAME LORI?

How 'bout that! .....everyone loves a good mystery..... you don't suppose ... hmm.

[OafOfOffice]

I have not read this whole thread so someone may have mentioned this already. When Gibbs was taking questions of the different reporters, someone from Gibbs left side said something like you promised. Gibbs made some funny remark, like promise you got to be kidding me. Then Gibbs asked questions from his right to the middle of the room. Then the very last question taken was from the person who spoke up and said you promised. That reporter we know is from world net daily. Gibbs went hysterical, made funny comments and left the room. He knew to not allow another question such as, If it so funny then why is obama spending a million plus to hide the original vault BC?

It was so set up to me. Gibbs was going to allow the question at the end so he could get out quickly.

[Fred Nerks]

FACTCHECK. BORN IN THE USA link.

In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:

Obama's birth announcement

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

Well, I guess that's how you do it, you plant an e-mail copy of something on a blogsite, and then you use it to confirm that it's the real thing...

Read the original TD blog report:

BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT.LINK

Here's Lori's explanation on TD Blog:

LORI LINK

We've all been led around by the nose, folks.

[Freedom56v2]

Gibbs said it might be disclosed at end of his four year term or something like that.

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Seriously? Is that what he said??!!!

[Fred Nerks]

Here’s the transcript:

“...Today the president’s press secretary was incredulous that the issue just won’t go away. In a White House briefing he said: “This question, in many ways, continues to astound me. The state of Hawaii provided a copy, with a seal, of the president’s birth… I certainly hope, by the fourth year of our administration, that we’ll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy.”

— FOX News Channel’s Lanna Britt contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522404,00.html

[Freedom56v2]

Uh here is the put up...Found it on You Tube....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhF2XOWN0ns

[Freedom56v2]

Here is the You Tube of the Presser question...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhF2XOWN0ns

[Freedom56v2]

Thx—See my #316—I found it on You Tube from the press conference.

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks!

He DID say ‘WE HAVE PUT IT ON THE INTERNET.!

The Fox transcript did not publish the entire response.

[Beckwith]

I was recently engaged in an exchange of emails with my buddy Fred Nerks from Oz that prompted me to revisit FactCheck.org, where the Annenberg-funded website has published a web page entitled, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate."

The information on this page is 100% bovine excrement.

FactCheck.org's Summary

1.  "In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate..."

This statement is false -- the campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth."  The document presented on this website is not now and never has been a birth certificate, and FactCheck.org knows it.  So why did they publish this lie?

2.  "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate."

This statement is also a lie -- the only people that have seen, touched, and examined Obama's birth certificate is Chiyome Leinaala Fuikino M.D., the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, and the Registrar of Vital Statistics.

Fuikino wrote, "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate.  State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record."

So your conclusion, "We conclude that..." is false, because your conclusions are based on a false premise -- that you have seen Obama's birth certificate -- you haven't, because the State of Hawaii won't release it.  What do you think is going on in the 48 lawsuits against Obama.  These suits are all trying to get to Obama's birth certificate and 48 times, judges have said, "I can't go for that, ohh, no, I can't go for that."

3.  "Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu."

Complete fabrication and bold-faced lie -- what Fuikino wrote was, "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Nowhere in that statement does it say Obama was born in Honolulu, and here is the complete statement:  -- check it out yourself.

And, nowhere does FactCheck.org identify the militantly partisan website that released the "Certification of Live Birth" -- The Daily Kos -- one of the wackiest websites extant.  This FACT alone makes this entire scenario suspicious, if not patently ridiculous.

FactCheck.org's Analysis

1.  FactCheck.org's own analysis confirms what I wrote above, under Summary.

2.  FactCheck.org presents a photo of a "Certification of Live Birth," captioned, "The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller."

That's a lie, as well -- the document in this photo is a "Certification of Live Birth" (getting tiresome, isn't it) -- not a birth certificate.  They are different documents, and the folks at this  mendacious organization know the difference -- Joseph Goebbels would be proud of FactCheck.org's big lie.

FactCheck.org presents a photo image of the document further down the page, under Analysis -- That document is not a "birth certificate."  It is a "Certification of Live Birth," again, FactCheck.org knowingly misrepresents the document as something it is not, and it's not even the document that was released. 

Here is the document that was released to The Daily Kos.  The original document released had its Certificate Number blacked out -- and if one looks at the document, it says at the bottom, "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE" -- even if the document were genuine -- it isn't VALID.

3.  FactCheck.org published several other images defending its false presentation on this page.

4.  In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

A birth announcement could have been easily phoned in to the newspaper from anywhere in the world.  This "fact" is inconclusive, unless you know who provided the newspaper with the announcement, the means they used, and where they were physically located at the time.

FactCheck.org's Anal-ists

FactCheck.org identifies their anal-ists as Jess Henig and Joe Miller.  OK, that's fine, but who and what are Jess Henig and Joe Miller?  Are they qualified to make an analysis of ANY document, or are they just a couple of guys hanging around FactCheck.org's office, or are they political operators?  What are their bona fides?  FactCheck.org doesn't say.  Wonder why?

Well, I found out.  The two FactCheck.org employees who were granted access to Obama's C.O.L.B. are NOT document experts.  Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy -- so he's a political operative -- while Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature -- I'm not sure her dye-job is a political or esthetic statement.  Clicking the links will display their photos -- just what you'd expect.

Those two are completely unqualified to perform any kind of forensic examination of the COLB document, and FactCheck.org knows it -- so do they.

FactCheck does say their, "representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago."  In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie.

Lie?  Hell, this is a conspiracy and FactCheck.org boldly admits their part in it.

I prefer to give credence to Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, who provides conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) image created and distributed by Obama's campaign to the Daily Kos, Annenberg's Factcheck, and the St. Petersburg Times, and Politifact, is, unquestionably, a false identification document.  Here, is his final report.

A second expert forensic document examiner Ms. Sandra Ramsey Lines has filed an affidavit  associated with one of the lawsuits, stating the following:

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an address at...  I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer.  I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991.  I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials.  My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from "Ron Polarik."  After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the "Daily Kos," the Obama Campaign, "Factcheck.org" and others cannot be relied upon as genuine.

My Comments

Since the title of the FactCheck.org web page is, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate," everything on the page is a bold-faced lie, because FactCheck.org has never, ever seen Obama's birth certificate and every image and reference on their page is to a Certification of Live Birth -- and they refer to it a "birth certificate" every time.

Hawaii is notorious for its issuance of COLB's.  Click here to see a large copy of a beautifully printed Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (If you click it, it will get bigger or smaller).  It belongs to Sun Yat-Sen, the Father of Modern China, who was born in China. 

This Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, dated March 14, 1904, was issued after Dr. Sun signed a raggedy type-written statement affirming that he was born in Hawaii on Nov. 24, 1870.  Sun Yat-sen was born on November 12, 1866, to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county , Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau), not Hawaii, as this document affirms.

We know Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama's sister has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth too, and she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.

None of this is surprising, since this website is funded by the same fine people who fundd Obama's buddy, the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. They represent themselves as unbiased and non-partisan. That, of course, is just another lie.

This "birth certificate" controversy is not nearly as important as the fact that Obama is not a "natural born citizen."

"To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed..."

George Orwell, "Nineteen Eighty-Four"