Posted on 05/25/2009 1:19:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
There was fresh controversy today over child sex abuse and the Catholic church when an archbishop's aide claimed the majority of paedophilia was being perpetrated by gay men.
Father John Owen, the communications officer for the archdiocese of Cardiff and a Catholic chaplain at Cardiff University, was a guest on BBC1's The Big Questions.
His remarks concerned last Wednesday's publication of the Ryan Inquiry, a 2,565-page report detailing the abuse and rape of children in Ireland's Catholic institutions, and came days after the newly-appointed archbishop of Westminster, the Most Rev Vincent Nichols, angered charities by saying it took courage for religious orders and clergy to confront the past.
Asked by the show's presenter, Nicky Campbell, whether the church cared more about its own reputation than the welfare of children, Owen replied: "These matters are so ghastly that people don't want to look at them, they can't believe these things are taking place within the orbit of a Christian church, perversion of Christianity.
"Let me tell you of course before you go too far, most of the offences are being committed by homosexuals."
Despite condemnation from the other panellists, two of whom were sexually abused, the churchman insisted he was stating the facts and told them to "be silent".
He said the "vast majority" of abuse cases in the UK affected teenage boys. "Now what does that tell you? Now that is a fact," he added.
A statement from the archdiocese distanced itself from Owen, saying "his comments seeming to link abuse and homosexuality" did not reflect the "consistent views" of the archdiocese of Cardiff.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
This is a fact.
I work with at-risk kids, and when people at work babble this *&^%, I just shake my head.
This is the world we live in: It's now considered a hate crime to say that when a male has sex with another (unwilling, younger) male--aka pedophilia--it's a homosexual act.
When someone mentions this foolishness to me, I say "So when a male rapist attacks a woman, he's no longer a heterosexual, and it's not a heterosexual act--he temporarily becomes asexual?"
The issue here is: what is a paedophile? If you answer, as would most professional psychologists since the term was first used in the 19th century, that a paedophile is an adult who is attracted to pre-pubertal children, then the vast majority of clerical offenders are not paedophiles. I Ireland and the UK, as in the US and Canada, the majority of victims (80% +) are post-pubertal male teenagers. This is the question raised by this article; it cannot be avoided.
Why does “to catch a predatory” only dangle girls and not boys? It’s starting to piss me off.
Let’s see some would-be scout leaders.
I would have thought most victims of child sex abuse were girls, though I don’t have the statistics to back this up....
I don’t have the numbers at my fingertips, but IIRC, it’s not even close.
Why would boys be more likely to be victims of sex abuse when gays make up less than 10% of the population? It just doesn’t make sense. Unless of course, you factor in how some hetrosexuals rape women, but as this is harder for would-be homosexual rapists to do with other grown men, they use boys instead....
Most were ‘’liberals’’ too, I bet.
i have seen the statistics. For pre-pubescent children, gays no more likely to be perps. For teenage victims, gays way way more likely to be perps. Which is the scenerio the church is dealing with. Technically the term is pederasty for teens, pedophilia for pre-pubescent... but popular usage today, they use pedophilia for both?
bttt
Men going for teenage boys right around puberty, for male on male sex ... who could imagine anyone calling the man a homo?
The truth cannot be tolerated unless it comes from the “Ministry of Truth” in today’s United Kingdom.
The headline doesn’t give info...from what I could tell in the excerpt the bishop didn’t use the term “pedophile” or “pedophilia”
I’m not sure what the numbers are with true pedophilia - the abuse of prepubescent children, but there are a helluvalot of little girls being molested by dirty old men.
There are terms used more accurately to describe the abuse of pubescent and post-pubescent children.
ephebophilia and pederastry.
Ephebophiles are those who prey on the teens, and homosexual ephebophiles committed the majority of abuse in the Church scandal.
“but popular usage today, they use pedophilia for both?”
I think it’s a combination of laziness, bigotry, and an unwillingness to admit what the numbers clearly show when you analyze the age of the victims with the perpetrators.
The term “pedophile priest” served the msm well - inaccurate as it was.
They should have said “pederast priest” or “ephebophile priest”
But that might have brought too much attention to the homosexuality.
I’ve heard it said that when INFANTS and small childen are molested, it’s a seperate psychological impulse in the offender. Since it seems so bizarre how anyone could get gratification from an infant, and since a babies don’t look like men or women at all, I can suppose there is some truth to the statement that male pedophiles who abuse male babies aren’t necessarily homosexual in their adult relationships.
But in the sense of that statement, we’re not dealing with pedophilia. We’re dealing with ephibophilia. The victims are post-pubescent, so they function as sexually adult. This is 100% about homosexuality, and 0% about pedophilia, in the strict sense of the term.
Wow, this is one of the few threads I have seen that has an intelligent discussion of the issue without devolving into Catholic bashing.
And in the meantime, I am glad I am not holding my breath waiting for the Drive By Media to focus its attention on the more current (as in its happening now vs. 20 years ago) and significantly more far-reaching problem of pederasts preying on our children in the public schools.
You wrote:
“Why would boys be more likely to be victims of sex abuse when gays make up less than 10% of the population? It just doesn’t make sense.”
I know I have read in many places that studies show ephebophiles (homosexual men who attack pubescent boys) are small in number, but they often commit HUNDREDS of attacks. That’s why it is not unusual to hear about one attacker molesting literally 200 or 300 boys in two or three decades.
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