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So much for GM quality. With all the delays, years of development, and supposed testing, they screw up something basic like "cable routing". How the HECK do you do that?

And people want us to believe that GM products are as good as any? Here's a hint, guys - the last time Toyota screwed up a battery cable this bad, Reagan was still president.

1 posted on 05/03/2009 6:52:08 PM PDT by Spktyr
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At least the warranty is supported by obama. How long did it take him to repond I wonder?


2 posted on 05/03/2009 6:55:47 PM PDT by Glennb51
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To: Spktyr

Well, my Lexus sucks too.


3 posted on 05/03/2009 6:56:00 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad, Socialism is slavery)
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My 69 Camaro never did that.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 6:58:19 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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Battery in the trunk sounds weirdly perverted.
6 posted on 05/03/2009 6:58:28 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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Now how do you screw up a Camaro, a classic American car? Oh wait, GM is now owned by the unions and led by inept people who flew to DC, begging for money.


7 posted on 05/03/2009 6:58:36 PM PDT by max americana
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Grandad had a 1966 GTO fresh from the factory - twin exhaust pipes rattled together and bringing it home in the rain the whole back area flooded ... several inches of water (tales over b’fast one day) ....


9 posted on 05/03/2009 7:01:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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That's not the only bit of idiotic engineering showing up on the new Camaro.

From Jalopnik:

2010 Chevy Camaro Gets Mysterious Brake Weights

By Ben Wojdyla, 12:30 PM on Wed Apr 22 2009, 22,346 views

Forumites at Camaro5 have been collectively scratching their heads for a couple days, wondering why there appear to be two layers of lead wheel weights stuck onto their brake calipers. It's a mystery Charlie Brown!

The confusion started when a poster uploaded an image of his new Camaro's Brembo calipers, on which were riding two rows of lead weights, normally affixed to the inside of a wheel rim to balance the tire. This led everyone with a Camaro to run outside to see it their mullet machine's also had the weights, which they do, at least on among the folks on the forum. GM has not answered to the confusion yet, but the leading theory is they were place on the caliper as a quick and dirty fix to alleviate brake squeal. From a physics perspective, this explanation is plausible, as resonant frequency is in large part determined by mass, and by changing the vibrating mass of the caliper with the weights, a troublesome squeal would be eliminated for a particular driving condition.

The trouble is if they're using normal brake weights, the heat cycling of the caliper will eventually cause the adhesive to fail and, if things get too serious on the track, the lead could actually melt. Though it's an odd issue and not really a big deal, we'll be keeping you in on the loop during Camaro brake-gate, though we recommend Camaro owners visit their local dealer and have their muffler bearings, blinker fluid, and piston-return springs checked out, just in case. Click here for the high-resolution image. Thanks for the tip Ethan! {Camaro5}

10 posted on 05/03/2009 7:01:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Entirely Obama’s fault. He’s in charge. The buck stops there, or at least the busted-down Camaro does. His Government Motors is clearly borrowing a page from the glorious anals of socialist car manufacturing (and no, that’s not a typo). It’s the same ethic that gave the world the Trabant, with its sawdust-and-resin body that proved irresistible to rats. Well, GM products should prove irresistible to DemocRats. After all, a Camaro that dies so early in life has a laudably small carbon footprint. Way to go, O! Change we can believe in.


11 posted on 05/03/2009 7:01:38 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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I was just working on my ‘67 Camaro. I’ve owned it 34 years and it is going through a major restoration. Other than the brakes (that’s the next upgrade) I bet I have more fun.


15 posted on 05/03/2009 7:02:40 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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Not surprised. GM cars are noted for their electrical problems.


20 posted on 05/03/2009 7:06:55 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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It’s failing to deliver on its promise and crapping out early - let’s rename it the Cabama.


22 posted on 05/03/2009 7:09:34 PM PDT by hometoroost (Eine Reich, Eine Volk, Eine Teleprompter)
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To: Spktyr

Fraying cables on a car with 40 miles on it?


26 posted on 05/03/2009 7:11:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Spktyr
In all fairness to GM, my wife bought a Mini Cooper (BMW). We have owned it about 20 months. It's been in the shop for minor and serious problems about three times so far.

Also, I don't think this has to do with the engineering, but it's pathetic for winter transportation in the snow belt.

31 posted on 05/03/2009 7:14:44 PM PDT by stevem
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It was probably assembled on a Monday or Friday...Or any other day for that matter...GM/UAW crap.


41 posted on 05/03/2009 7:25:33 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: Spktyr
So this is it?


42 posted on 05/03/2009 7:27:48 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Then there were more solidly built Camaros, too.

55 posted on 05/03/2009 7:42:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (It's obvious from Nancy Pelosi's appearance that she tortures people every day.)
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My friend with 3 GM vehicles has experienced problems with all of them, though he won’t admit there may be something wrong with GM “quality”. My folks bought a new Pontiac 20 years ago, tranny died right off the lot.

I won’t buy GM. 20-30+ grand is too much for a quality control crap shoot. I liked the Dodges I’ve driven, but I won’t buy one. I love Ford F -series trucks, I may even buy one, but for now, I’ll stick to my Toyotas. The odds with them not dieing at 35k miles seem to be better.


64 posted on 05/03/2009 7:51:38 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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Figures. As if the last couple of versions weren’t bad enough, leave it to GM to screw up the new retro model as well. On the other hand, the Mustang just keeps getting better and better. They were the first pony car and are now the last.


80 posted on 05/03/2009 8:21:42 PM PDT by GBA
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YouTube: Pony Car Mash-up
81 posted on 05/03/2009 8:24:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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