Posted on 04/17/2009 12:02:27 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
Okay, you guys did good. I'm surprised about the turnout. I had my doubts and I was proven wrong. I applaud all of you for standing tall.
So now where do we from here? Do you/we continue to be out-raged and hold more TEA Partys without direction? Should we build upon the movement with lots of signs and demonstrations that the Obama, Reid, Pelosi triad ignores, or do we look at ways to effort real change?
Rush is an ass. He's not even entertaining anymore. Many years ago I used to love his musical parodies. I was one of his first fans. Over the years he has disappointed me so often. Be a Rush fan, people, he's not the answer to our problems.
Fair enough. Just giving you some Constitutional background. Best.
And of course, we need individuals to lead the fight. Our Founding Fathers and Mothers sacrificed to give us liberty. Committing to the cause and accepting that huge sacrifices will have to be made in order to regain our liberty is key.
Just my 0.02 cents
No more parties. They don’t work in Europe or any where else. We have to take back the GOP.
2. Term limits
3. 50 Federal courts (one for each state) beneath the Supreme Court. All decisions are based on federal law but decisions only apply to that individual state. Judges of these courts are appointed and their terms set out by the individual states. Only Supreme Court decisions would apply nationally. Supreme Court judges subject to dismissal if President and Congress get 2/3 vote if decisions are believed by such not to be consist ant with the Constitution
4. Sunset provision on all laws, Any law must come up for an up or down vote every century or be discarded.
Oh I totally agree. It's also my opinion we should be countering them, the best we can, via letters to the editor (if enough of us send them in they can't completely ignore them), calling talk radio, especially to hosts whose views differ from ours, and most importantly explaining our position to neighbors, friends and others every chance we get. In other words, spread the word.
That's what I try to do at The (rat infested) Local Watering Hole, and with my wife and her co-workers when I take them to work in the morning.
A neighbor was jogging by as I came home the other morning. She's HUGE Obama supporter and stopped to "congratulate" me on the April 11th Tea Party. She had read in the local paper that there were only a "few hundred" at the rally.
I just happened to have some pics and a video with me and proved to here that no matter what the media claimed, there were AT LEAST 5 to 7 thousand at the rally.
That made an impact, LOL!
prisoner6
I'm looking for the Margaret Chase Smiths, the Strom Thurmonds, the Alan Simpsons, the Barry Goldwaters that should be stepping forward on their own. Right now they don't have to.
We are a diverse party and a multi-regional party and we have to work out our differences and commonalities before we can go anywhere. Relying on a handful of radio commentators to develop the party line is obtuse. It is just putting too many cats in the gunny sack and watching it jump around.
I think parties are unavoidable. It's simply the natural outcome of political evolution. The only way anybody can win in a democracy is a unified coalition. Parties form naturally because the only other outcome that is stable in practice is dictatorship. It's better to find some way to acknowledge this reality and deal with it.
REPORT CA-TEA PARTY ...”Being that new media was our way to spread the word out to the masses, you can surely imagine that the mainstream lefty media did nothing but put words in my mouth yesterday. Everyone from the Los Angeles Times to the Daily News to NBC took everything I gave them and ran it thru the spin cycle. They were angry that they would not put words in my mouth and I would NOT allow them to make my Tea Party a mean spirited Obama hate machine. Every time I mentioned this was an AMERICAN event and not a REPUBLICAN event the reporters became angry. Every time I told them that people across the political spectrum planned on attending, they would say “Well I guess the democrats showing are conservative or blue dog democrats, right?”. I made it VERY clear to these reporters and spinsters that they were no long needed in the pursuit of spreading information about events and rallies, and that social networking worked just fine for my event in getting the word out. Nothing makes an activist like myself get the warm and fuzzies quite like telling a reporter from the LA Times that he was not needed and Facebook did just fine spreading the information we needed to get out!
All and all these Tea Parties stood for something simple. Something every American has the right to, and that’s taxation WITH representation. This sent a message to both Democrats and Republican elected officials alike that you represent the people. We don’t represent YOU! Nothing beats a gathering of discerning minds just trying to flex their first amendment muscle and fight for their right to party, Tea Party that is!
http://www.capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/1841 While there were plenty of anti-Obama signs (”Obama: Hitler gave good speeches, too”; “President B.O., your budget stinks”) at both the San Francisco and Sacramento rallies Wednesday, Republicans shouldn’t think this “revolution,” as it was referred to from the Sacramento stage, is theirs.
“Are you guys tools of the Republican Party?” Meckler asked the crowd that packed the west lawn of the Capitol in Sacramento.
The crowd’s response: Boooooo!
Much anger at rallies
The “tea baggers” were angry about government bailouts. Angry at getting fewer services for their tax dollars. Angry at President Obama for approving the bailouts, at former President George W. Bush for not restraining federal expenditures and at Congress and the Legislature for spending “like drunken sailors” - one of the day’s more popular refrains.
The crowds at both rallies were largely white and nearly all of those interviewed identified themselves as Republicans or conservatives. Conservative Fox News commentators like Sean Hannity talked up the rallies for weeks and hosted their programs from them Wednesday. And conservative advocacy organizations like FreedomWorks - led by former House GOP Majority Leader Dick Armey - helped organize Wednesday’s efforts, leading some to deride the events as “Astroturf” or false grass roots rallies.
Still, if Republicans don’t seize this street energy “it could turn into a third-party movement,” Glenn Reynolds, creator of the popular right-of-center Instapundit blog, told National Public Radio Wednesday.
Conservatives frustrated
Michael Semler, a political science professor at Cal State Sacramento, said that the tea party protests stem in large part from conservative frustration with the Democratic president, who still enjoys high support in the polls.
“They want to find something to stick to him, and they can’t,” he said. “Mr. Obama has developed a smart strategy, being on the news and doing something every day,” as he did Tuesday, when he delivered a comprehensive speech on the economy - then followed it up “doing even something as mundane as playing with a dog.”
Such savvy moves in media, Semler said, have served to suck the oxygen from the room for many of the conservative pundits - especially in a week when Obama “got the 3 a.m. phone call” regarding Somali pirates and managed to win applause for the resolution of that potential crisis.
That means “the right wing doesn’t have a story line, and they’re frustrated,” he said.
While the namesake Boston Tea partiers were upset by British taxation without colonial representation in 1773, Wednesday’s protesters were frustrated by and angry at the quality of their representation. Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Sacramento, was the rare politico at the podium Wednesday, as organizers said they rebuffed several Republicans who wanted to attend.
Michael Reagan, the talk show host and son of the former president, drew one of the loudest roars of the day when he ripped Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Sacramento event by saying, “Arnold, you are no Ronald Reagan.”
How will it be paid for?
Others there just wanted answers about the bailouts.
“What I want to know is, how are we going to pay for all of this?” said Paul Kreutz, 51, of Sacramento, who held a sign that read, “You had me at Geithner.”
In San Francisco, about 500 fired-up activists gathered in the shadow of City Hall, carrying anti-tax signs with sayings such as “Save some for us, you pigs” and “Spread the poverty.”
“This is the opportunity that people have been waiting for,” said Melanie Morgan, the former talk show host and co-founder of Move America Forward, a grassroots conservative group. Watching as tea bags were distributed to the protesters, who pinned them on lapels, Morgan said the feeling among many of them was “exuberant.”
Sally Zelikovsky, who said she is a stay-at-home mother of three from San Rafael, said that, like others in the crowd, she had come to a spring weekday protest because “people are seeing this country going in a direction they find distasteful.”
A call for impeachment
Jim and Suzanne DuMolin of Tiburon were equally passionate, jointly holding a sign calling for Obama’s impeachment. That move, said Jim DuMolin, was justified - despite Obama’s current popularity and his democratic election by U.S. voters. “It does not give him the right to transcend” the boundaries of presidential powers, DuMolin said. “He has promised a socialistic approach to government. That’s really very little difference from Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.”
http://www.capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/1837
The left leverages the ‘cult of personality’ paradigm. It’s just one of their mindless herd mentality means of distracting the unthinking while they’re picking pockets.
The American Thinker posting, “Saving the Republic” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2231279/posts may provide a crucial focus if it can be distilled for public consumption and acceptance.
Good idea, but won't ever happen. Do you know that some of the Founding Fathers believed and argued for only property holders have a vote within the new Constitutional Republic? They believed that those who didn't own property, but yet had a vote, would eventually vote themselves the largess of the property owners?
Benjamin Franklin said something similar, to paraphrase, "Once the populace discovers it can vote itself the largess of the treasury, the Republic is doomed".
Are we not now seeing such a concept in our welfare state, and our ever increasing re-distribuion of wealth under the Bush and more so the Obama administrations?
Fifty, I say again, almost 50% of Americans don't pay taxes. So let me get this straight: Those non-tax paying Americans are still getting the benefit of national defense; medi-care; housing in some instances; welfare and food stamps; local police and other emergency services, free education; and countless other Fedgov and State benefits? Thanks to your taxes, providing you aren't in the bottom 50 percentile. And the MSM wonders why we are pissed off?
Reagan had a worse problem than we do with the press. He also had a smarmy little drunk named Mike Deaver who understood the media and how to counter them. Do you remember ever seeing a bad picture of Reagan? It's not just that he was photogenic but Deaver always put him in backgrounds that benefited him. The little guy was pure genius.
Whoever put together the video linked to in post 12 has the touch. That is powerful.
District gerrymandering is another area we should be attacking. Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering.
You're dreaming.
saving
Different time. Different American mentality. But I agree with your point about that place in history.
Ross Perot = Bill Clinton.........and it will happen everytime. You can’t get a majority when you divide by 3.
A massive march on Washington has to be in the works . If that can’t be accomplished everything will be futile. The major networks will not be able to spin that kind of showing and the world markets will pick it up. Make sure it is on a day Bambi( brown clown) is in town so he KNOWS about it !
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