Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Data Shows Seniors Turning to Reverses to Make Up for Investment Losses (Reverse Mortgages)
Broker Universe ^ | March 25, 2009 | Brad Finkelstein

Posted on 03/25/2009 12:41:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

OAKLAND, CA - More senior citizens are looking into reverse mortgage loans as a way to offset the income that has vanished as the result of losses in their investments. This is from data gleaned by Golden Gateway Financial here from usage data for its online reverse mortgage calculator.

However, on the other side of the equation, the company said, homeowners are seeing their home values drop, as evidenced by changes in the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Indices.

"For many older Americans, the time to act to stave off continuing losses is now," said Eric Bachman, founder and chief executive of Golden Gateway Financial. "Retirees who are unable to tap their investments or even return to work are turning to their home as their last line of defense, only to find its value is greatly diminished. This economy is effectively rewriting the financial rules of retirement."

According to the company, 46.1% of those researching a reverse mortgage during the fourth quarter had a forward mortgage on their property, compared with 51.4% in the first quarter, 53.4% in the second quarter and 53.8% in the third.

Golden Gateway said this data backs up its hypothesis about using a reverse mortgage to replace investment income.

The average home value slipped from $449,200 in the first quarter of 2008 down to $412,627 for the fourth quarter.

For older Americans considering tapping their home equity to help fund their retirement, a drop in home value corresponds to a similar loss in cash available through a reverse mortgage. The company advises potential borrowers already hurt by investment or job loss to consider locking in their home value now in order to avoid future declines in available equity.

"For these borrowers it makes sense to avoid selling stocks or other assets at or close to the bottom when a reverse mortgage allows them to participate in the potential upside of a rebound in property values," continued Mr. Bachman.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; equity; housing; mortgages; retirement; reversemortgages; seniors; wallstreet
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 next last
A truly sad situation.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 12:41:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any FReepers out there that are savvy about these reverse mortgages? Is this as bad an idea as I think it is?


2 posted on 03/25/2009 12:45:00 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The average home value slipped from $449,200 in the first quarter of 2008 down to $412,627 for the fourth quarter.

You got to be kidding me!

3 posted on 03/25/2009 12:46:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
Any FReepers out there that are savvy about these reverse mortgages? Is this as bad an idea as I think it is?

Depends upon how soon you're planning to die.

4 posted on 03/25/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

It means you can kiss your inheritance good bye, your parents have decided to spend it.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 12:49:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

I’m a former mortgage loan officer. From what I understand of these loans, they can sometimes be a benefit for a person over 62. IIRC, the borrower is given a lump sum or annuity, based on age and equity in the home. The senior(s) no longer have to make payments on the house, and the bank cannot take back the house until both seniors (in the case of a couple) have passed away. Borrowers must be counseled by a third party before taking out the loan, which is government regulated.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 12:50:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
I do not really understand how a reverse mortgage works. It seems to me a real nice way for seniors to have their homes stolen out from under them (and their descendants).
7 posted on 03/25/2009 12:51:18 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58; Grampa Dave

Here’s an intersting artickle, Dave...


8 posted on 03/25/2009 12:51:19 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism smells like BO!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe that members of the “greatest generation” would fall for this insane idea. Only IF your health were compromised, and your time short, would these then be a “good” idea!


9 posted on 03/25/2009 12:55:21 PM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
My favorite "reverse mortgage": In 1965, aged 90, with no living heirs, Jeanne Calment (eventually to become the world's oldest living person!) signed a deal to sell her former apartment to lawyer André-François Raffray, on a contingency contract. Raffray, then aged 47, agreed to pay her a monthly sum of 2,500 francs until she died, an agreement sometimes called a "reverse mortgage". Raffray ended up paying Calment more than the equivalent of $180,000, which was more than double the apartment's value. After Raffray's death from cancer at the age of 77, in 1995, his widow continued the payments until Calment's death.
10 posted on 03/25/2009 12:55:21 PM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

In a word, yes.
Locally, a retirement age couple used the reverse morgage to free money to purchase “stuff” and an expensive RV.
The husband died. The widow is left with huge debt and no saleable assets. Seems the persons who consider reverse morgages are the same group that look to 2nd/3rd morgages as ATM’s. Just a general observation.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 12:56:12 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

I see it as theirs to spend anyway.

I have my own wealth to accumulate, keep from the gov’t, and spend/give as I wish.


12 posted on 03/25/2009 12:57:51 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Red_Devil 232
The average home value slipped from $449,200 in the first quarter of 2008 down to $412,627 for the fourth quarter.

Bubble: A time period during which people confuse the meaning of "value" with the meaning of "price".


13 posted on 03/25/2009 1:03:22 PM PDT by Polybius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Hoosier Catholic Momma; CottonBall; TenthAmendmentChampion; Chickensoup; JDoutrider; ...

I don’t know enough about reverse mortgages to despise them yet, but debt is debt.

Dave Ramsey Fan Ping List.

If you would like to be added to the “Live like no one else, so that you can LIVE like no one else” list, feel free to Freepmail me.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 1:08:19 PM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Yep, it’s their’s to do with as they wish. My parent’s only real asset is their home, they have no reason to do the reverse mortgage though, they get along just fine.

I will share that inheritance some day if they precede me in death. Along with my 7 siblings that is. Depending on the circumstances at that time, I will probably give my share to a sister, who has a need.


15 posted on 03/25/2009 1:09:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: MrB
.....keep from the gov’t, and spend/give as I wish.

Good luck on that first part.

16 posted on 03/25/2009 1:11:14 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: MrB
Regarding an estate, my grandfather told my father that if there was anything left, it would be the consequence of a serious miscalculation.
17 posted on 03/25/2009 1:11:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

I’m following all the LEGAL tax reduction strategies that I can.


18 posted on 03/25/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

I’m a loan officer for a Mortgage Banking firm. These loans although not for everyone are lifesavers for many Seniors. I have been doing them for about 5 years and have never had a client that has come back and told me that they were sorry for their decision.

More information is available at americashrm.com


19 posted on 03/25/2009 1:17:55 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard

Bad idea

IMHO


20 posted on 03/25/2009 1:26:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson