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The Dirty Little Secret Is Out: Religious Faith and Evolution Are Incompatible
ICR ^ | March 20, 2009 | Frank Sherwin, M.A.

Posted on 03/20/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

In a recent book review, Jerry Coyne, professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago, admitted that the secular worldview of macroevolution (the development of complex life from “simpler” forms) is at odds with Christian faith...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; corruption; creation; darwin; darwinism; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; jerrycoyne; judeo; judeochristian; moralabsolutes; neenerhijack; religion
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To: RegulatorCountry

Dude, why don’t you get a Sanskrit copy of the Gita, and get it translated, and see if there is any inconsistency in what I posted above, and what the Sanskrit version contained?

The lines are all numbered, the chapter is labeled. Try it. Then get back.


261 posted on 03/21/2009 12:53:08 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
OK, MyTwoCopperCoins. After two copious data dumps, it's time for you to come clean. You're not Hindu. You're merely touting Hinduism because you believe the Hindu account of creation to be friendlier to your fundamental belief, which is evolution.

LOL!

All I'm saying is, "creationism" is an invention of man. If anyone forces me to believe in said "creationism", I will nullify that thread by a mere mention of the various forms of "creationism", available, each one as absurd, or authentic, as the other.

The way to remove a thorn, is with another.

262 posted on 03/21/2009 12:56:25 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Are you Hindu, dude?


263 posted on 03/21/2009 12:57:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nope. Atheist.


264 posted on 03/21/2009 12:57:36 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Do you usually find theology helpful in proselytizing atheism?


265 posted on 03/21/2009 1:00:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Extremely helpful. In fact, it’s my best weapon.


266 posted on 03/21/2009 1:02:38 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Thank you for your belated candor.


267 posted on 03/21/2009 1:06:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You’re always welcome!


268 posted on 03/21/2009 1:14:41 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: kanawa

Of course. People are free to be wrong. I believe I am right. I base it on God’s Word.

And we have every right to hold one person’s belief to be better/more accurate/correct than anothers. And I believe God’s Word on the subject of how man came about to be better and more accurate and correct over anyone elses. You can believe whoever you want, but so can I. I believe God and the account that has been recorded and painstakingly preserved accurately for thousands of years.


269 posted on 03/21/2009 1:18:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: starlifter

Are you really afraid to just read the first few chapters of the Bible and find it yourself? And are you asking because you really want to know or because you just want me to give you the exact verse? And when I give you the verse, will it make any difference to you once you have it?

Genesis 4:17. Genesis 4:25. Genesis 5:4. Not that you genuinely care.


270 posted on 03/21/2009 1:22:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

[[And when I give you the verse, will it make any difference to you once you have it?]]

Not a bit of difference- It’s nothign but a game to antiChristians- demand demand demand- all the while ignoring ignoring ignoring once the demand is met.


271 posted on 03/21/2009 1:49:39 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: starlifter
Many of these people remind me of equally ardent Islaamists.

As I seem to recall Christians were fed to the Lions, or burned for entertainment, then there was that whole inquisition thingy, and I don't recall one instance of Christians beheading anyone. Maybe if they had been armed a little better, but then who knows?

272 posted on 03/21/2009 1:54:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Badger1
I don’t believe in ghosts, goblins or gods.

You demonstrate quite well why Conservatism is incompatible with Libertarianism. You are just an upside down RINO.

273 posted on 03/21/2009 1:57:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The Dirty Little Secret Is Out: Religious Faith and Evolution Are Incompatible

That you attempt to advance the agenda of a man who is operating far outside his field of expertise (an ecologist acting as a theologian), is telling.

Still, even though the learned Fathers, the theologians & scholars they employ, scientists, observation, and common sense tell me otherwise, if you and Some Guy On The Internet say so, I guess it must be true.

::shrug:

Off to renounce my faith in God and the Church resume my life, knowing that faith and reason are entirely compatible. God allowed us advanced brains and it seems obvious that he expects us to use them to reason.

I pray He's not too angry when He sees so many willfully squandering His gift.

274 posted on 03/21/2009 2:19:25 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: GodGunsGuts; WondrousCreation
This is progress. You don't assert that Darwin stopped science in its tracks as WonderousCreation does. And you're willing to concede that your opposition to evolution is based on your interpretation of the Bible.

That is refreshingly honest, and it leaves open questioning your interpretation of the Bible as much it permits you to question science.

275 posted on 03/21/2009 2:20:23 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Iscool
LOL
You pull “proof” out of the sky.

YES the separate animal skin, vellum or ancient manuscript forms of the several Letters and Books existed at the time, but they were NOT a “New Testament” until the Catholic Church created the New Testament, keeping out the Heretical works and Canonizing those that the Chruch found to be Canonical.

Nobody who has EVER been involved in the translation of the Protestant versions has ever done so without, also, consulting the Catholic versions.

You are ignorant of Bible history.

276 posted on 03/21/2009 2:28:23 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: WVKayaker

And, you can give nothing but advice.
I wish you well -—
But your advice is flawed.


277 posted on 03/21/2009 2:30:47 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Dog Gone

Actually, I do believe that Darwinism is a science stopper. Thankfully, the vast majority of scientists ignore Darwin and tacitly proceed as though nature has design and purpose. This really bugs Richard Dawkins et al, because scientists are forced to use the language of design to explain living organisms. Indeed, he is currently trying to find a way to banish the language of design from the natural sciences. Unfortunately for Dawkins, the new language he has come up with implies purpose! Poor chap.


278 posted on 03/21/2009 2:30:52 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: WVKayaker

That Jesus suffered on the Cross is an historical fact.

Every Christian faith that there is, today, owes its beginning to the Catholic Church.

Every single Christian faith that exists, today, owes its first leaders to people who got there knowledge of Scripture directly from the Catholic Church, or from others who got THEIR knowledge directly from the Catholic Church.

Can you find any Scripture that would condemn the use of a Rosary? You might as well say that guitars or pianos or organs can not be used in church. Any method that anyone uses to remember their place, and that is what Rosary beads are for, is no different than the book mark you use in your Bible that is your Idol.

You misuse the Bible for a task it was not intended.


279 posted on 03/21/2009 2:35:14 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GodGunsGuts

Okay, gotcha. Evolution is a science stopper, except that it isn’t.

Good clarification.


280 posted on 03/21/2009 2:37:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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