Are Congress and Obama Deliberately Inciting a New US Civil War?

Canadian Free Press ^ | March 20, 2009 | Sher Zieve

[LoneStarC]

With the events that have transpired over the last 58 days—since Obama and his adherents commandeered the US presidency—fear is now becoming the order of each and every day for many of We-the-People. ....... ....has led me to believe that both Congress and Obama are in the process of purposefully creating conditions that will lead to a revolution by We-the-People so that it and Obama can affect Martial Law and once and for all forcibly suppress the American people

[smoothsailing]

Does a bear take an Obama in the woods?

ROFLOL!!!!!

[Peter ODonnell]

The situation is obviously not good, but take heart, I believe that God holds America close to His heart, and will protect you from ultimate harm. Obama will be revealed for what he really is, and so will those around him. A partial reversal will come with the 2010 elections. After that, it will be a tough struggle but if the conservative movement stays together and backs one party and one candidate, Obama and much of this nightmare will be gone in 2012.

And if that doesn’t work, perhaps it will be time for Jesus to return. Whatever it takes, God will protect America. But punishment may fall on some, those who have turned away from His word, on such as those, vast punishment may fall.

These are momentous times. Don’t lose your nerve, fight to the end.

[fr_freak]

My Fellow Freepers: Let's stop talking treason and realize that the only way to get the government we want, and which we believe will exist within the clear bounds of our beloved Constitution, is to vote it into power.

First, you are wrong about voting being the only way. It may be the best way. It may be the least destructive way, but it is not the only way. The Founders of this country fully recognized the need for other ways, and provided for it.

Second, your optimism about the voting booth still being a viable option is, perhaps, a bit naive. The leftists have spent the last 40-50 years or more indoctrinating Americans through the school system, the entertainment industry, and the news media to reject core American principles and accept left-wing socialist principles instead. They have also fomented racial hatred in this country so that many of the non-white races now blame whitey for everything, and associate core American values with the evil white man, which they will never support. Additionally, the Left has been flooding the USA with millions of foreign nationals who have no allegiance to this country, and often an active hatred. None of these affected groups will vote in any meaningful numbers for anything remotely resembling American conservative values.

Third, and perhaps most important, fanatical adherence to the principles of our Constitution is not treason. Support of those in government who subvert and destroy our Constitutional principles would be treason. Fighting for the Constitution would be patriotism, so you have your analysis exactly backwards. The military oath of loyalty is to the Constitution, NOT to the party in power and NOT to any politician. Fighting against those who subvert and destroy the Constitution in the US would be fulfillment of the oath, not a violation of it.

[Jack Black]

Yep. How can it not be. Maybe I should start a graph of “CWII PINGS” showing it going from 1 or 2 a week under Bush to 3 or 4 a day, rising to 30 or 50 a day before the net is shut down by The Messiah.

[DuncanWaring]

Between you and Travis, I count 6.

[PJammers]

When I took the oath it was to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That was almost 30 years ago so it may have changed.

According to my oath, that I took before God, the current administration are usurpers of the constitution and therefore domestic enemies. I can bet that many in the armed forces see it the same way.

[DuncanWaring]

More likely to turn out like the French Revolution.

[DuncanWaring]

Maybe I should start a graph of “CWII PINGS” showing it going from 1 or 2 a week under Bush to 3 or 4 a day, rising to 30 or 50 a day before the net is shut down by The Messiah.

They used to be "Food for Thought".

Now they're Incitement to Prilosec and Adult Beverages.

And the reloading bench.

[wombtotomb]

excuse me, but I think that oath was taken to the constitution, not to a president.

[alarm rider]

Depends on the leadership.

[Idaho_Independent]

I disagree; the oath was to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. By his violation of the Constitution several times a day at this point Obama has made himself the enemy. The military personnel know this and would not follow his illegal orders. This, my friends is why he wants a “Domestic Security Force” as strong and well funded as the military. This is what should be scaring the hell out of all of us. His civilian force would not hesitate to fire at will.

[momincombatboots]

I agree with your points about the “domestic security force”. I haven’t studied Hitler, was this his MO?

[clamper1797]

More likely to turn out like the French Revolution.

That's what I told my mom on the phone this morning

[mo]

IMHO..yes..they need to take the focus off what is happening financially...

[jiggyboy]

Does not anyone have a problem with an elected official stating that AIG people should be strung up with piano wire?

He (Grassley I think) was quoting a letter from a constituent. Grassley himself called for the AIG bigshots to commit ritual suicide Japanese style, which is perhaps a slightly lower level of hatred but certainly does not invalidate your point.

[patriot preacher]

They certainly are provoking the American People. I don’t think they KNOW what kind of wrath We-The-People are capable of. Either that, or they think they’ve got all that figured out and all the authority and firepower they need to quell any “dust-ups” a few of us “Militia” members and “domestic terrorists.”

I’m still wondering — does anyone here really think our military as a whole would actually fire on or take action against large numbers of American citizens?

[DuncanWaring]

Ever heard of “Brownshirts”?

That was them.

[datura]

We don’t have tht kind of time. By giving in to Iran, letting Russia use central American airfields, turning our back on Israel, and selling the nation to China, Zero is in fact being teasonous.

Wait all you want.

[DuncanWaring]

What the heck ya doin’ talkin’ to your mom about this kind of thing?

It’s not nice to be scarin’ the old ladies!

[investigateworld]

Chilling - but on the mark.