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Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out
Soldier of Fortune ^ | 13 March, 2009 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 03/17/2009 6:42:32 AM PDT by marktwain

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,

Sturm Ruger Mini-14,

AR-15,

Bushmaster XM15,

Armalite M15,

AR-10,

Thompson 1927,

Thompson M1;

AK,

AKM,

AKS,

AK-47,

AK-74,

ARM,

MAK90,

NHM 90,

NHM 91,

SA 85,

SA 93,

VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR;

AR70,

Calico Liberty ,

Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,

Fabrique National FN/FAL,

FN/LAR, or FNC,

Hi-Point20Carbine,

HK-91,

HK-93,

HK-94,

HK-PSG-1,

Thompson 1927 Commando,

Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga,

SAR-8,

SAR-4800,

SKS with detachable magazine,

SLG 95,

SLR 95 or 96,

Steyr AU,

Tavor,

Uzi,

Galil and Uzi Sporter,

Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110,

MAC-10,

MAC-11, or MPA3,

Olympic Arms OA,

TEC-9,

TEC-DC9,

TEC-22 Scorpion,

or AB-10,

Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG,

SPAS 12 or LAW 12,

Striker 12,

Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),

(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles). A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a barrel shroud or

(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and

(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”

Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.


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I know Alan Korwin. He is a careful researcher and a thoughtful writer. Notice that this is about strategy, not a current piece of legislation.
1 posted on 03/17/2009 6:42:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

What does that mean, “Rifles”?


2 posted on 03/17/2009 6:44:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: marktwain

I hope this is incorrect. I fear it’s not, though.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 6:44:23 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: autumnraine

It’s a category heading, like pistols, and shotguns below


4 posted on 03/17/2009 6:44:53 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: marktwain
I don't think they understands the 2nd Amendment — or maybe they understand it all too well.
5 posted on 03/17/2009 6:45:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: marktwain

this is what the ammunition shortage is about. people stocking up on guns before they’re banned aren’t able to stock up on the ammo


6 posted on 03/17/2009 6:45:32 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Ok, I see it now. Sorry.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 6:45:49 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: marktwain

Remember, we have a lot of democrats who have been elected who have “A” ratings from the NRA. This list won’t pass.


8 posted on 03/17/2009 6:46:22 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: marktwain

Shotguns! Shotguns! That is patently unConstitutional. What is the justification? Or are many of these being used as some sort of bargaining chip?

Look, either we have a Second Amendment or we don’t! You cannot be kinda of pregnant.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 6:46:49 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: marktwain

The libs are trying to determine whether they will have a full scale revolution on their hands if they try to pass this crap. I think they should have this seed of fear in their minds all the time.


10 posted on 03/17/2009 6:46:57 AM PDT by GnL
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To: marktwain

All of my weapons fell out of a canoe on a hunting trip.. ;)


11 posted on 03/17/2009 6:47:12 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: marktwain
“there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

Given that the Supreme Court explicitly affirmed that people have a right to own guns for self-defense and not just for hunting, would this be an argument for getting this declared unconstitutional? At least by the present court?

12 posted on 03/17/2009 6:47:25 AM PDT by RonF
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To: marktwain

Don’t they understand that we need the guns to get the government bonuses back from the AIG bankers! What are they thinking?


13 posted on 03/17/2009 6:47:33 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Having a pool is 11 times more likely to kill a child than owning a gun....)
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To: marktwain

I never heard of a Hipoint 20 Carbine. Do they mean 995 or 4095s?


14 posted on 03/17/2009 6:48:03 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: GnL

There’s a line in the sand, and the hardware and ammo are piling up on the liberty side of that line. They see it.

And, like you say, they are seeing what they can get away with before the appearance of something that is currently lacking on the liberty side - WILL.


15 posted on 03/17/2009 6:49:00 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: BenLurkin

there will be less tea parties, and more NRA parties I would imagine.

The tea party people, the gun people, the pro life people, the immigration people all need to work together on each issue to make our voices heard. We need to have leaders of each group organize massive demonstrations urging each group leader to have their members attend one of each event and get literally millions at a gun rally, an anti abortion rally etc. We need to stand for ALL or we will have NONE!


16 posted on 03/17/2009 6:49:09 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Yep.


17 posted on 03/17/2009 6:50:02 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: wombtotomb

I pray there will be a coup before gun confiscation begins.


18 posted on 03/17/2009 6:50:10 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: Robe

I sold all of mine and I lost the receipts.


19 posted on 03/17/2009 6:50:59 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: wombtotomb
The tea party people, the gun people, the pro life people, the immigration people all need to work together on each issue to make our voices heard.

We used to have such an organization. It was called "The Republican Party". I wonder what ever happened to it?

20 posted on 03/17/2009 6:53:40 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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