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Options for small business owners if card check passes and their business is unionized.
03/05/09 | PD

Posted on 03/05/2009 11:23:41 AM PST by hdbc

Does anyone with experience in these matters know what can be done, if anything, if your business becomes unionized as a result of card check? Are there any civil disobediance measures a business owner could take against the unionization? Could you shut down or lock out the operation? Obviously, this would be expensive, but so will forcibly having a union imposed on your business.


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KEYWORDS: cardcheck; unions
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1 posted on 03/05/2009 11:23:42 AM PST by hdbc
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To: hdbc

Offshore your business to China or India. Obama is going to push that trend through the roof.


2 posted on 03/05/2009 11:25:42 AM PST by PGR88
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To: hdbc

CLOSE YOU DOORS AND JOIN THE UNION....... YOU WILL PROBABLY BE BETTER OF


3 posted on 03/05/2009 11:26:03 AM PST by Vlaxo
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You can do what my friend’s father did. Openly oppose the union. Of course, the Teamsters then murdered him (his car exploded upon starting).


4 posted on 03/05/2009 11:26:17 AM PST by pabianice
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I think if a business is in this position, they should talk with an attorney on what options they have.. there are a lot of regulations against businesses speaking against unions, etc.


5 posted on 03/05/2009 11:26:54 AM PST by mnehring
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Shut your business down.


6 posted on 03/05/2009 11:28:25 AM PST by vollmond (I'm an issues voter. If you're a Democrat, I've got issues.)
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To: hdbc

Atlas Shrugs.................


7 posted on 03/05/2009 11:29:09 AM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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Get out ahead of this thing with whatever organization you belong to (NFIB etc) and raise hell over it. Start the lawsuits NOW. Don’t wait to be hit in the face with this! Are you in a right to work state? That will likely be gone.

We all seem so disorganized while that tyrannical sob, who’s name defiles my mouth (or keyboard), slashes all around.

If you think it is expensive to fight, wait until you see how expensive it is to live with.


8 posted on 03/05/2009 11:29:38 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: hdbc

Shut down immediately. Or better yet, find a way to offshore their jobs.


9 posted on 03/05/2009 11:29:57 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: vollmond
Shut your business down.

I think this is the only real legal option.

Of course, another business can buy the assets (if any) and start over.

10 posted on 03/05/2009 11:30:45 AM PST by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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Of course you can shut down. And you should.

You shut down the current company and reopen using a new name, new papers, etc. You can even stay in the same spot.

Hire all new employees and let the new employees know what you did and you are willing to do it again.


11 posted on 03/05/2009 11:30:53 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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You'll be screwed. Decide if that is really where you want your business to be. If so, you may layoff enough workers to pay for the decrease in productivity, which means you may run into fulfillment problems.

Again, if card-check passes, and your workers have teh slightest inclination to go union, you're screwed.

12 posted on 03/05/2009 11:30:53 AM PST by Palmetto
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I suggest a long sabbatical and contemplating ways to use your entreprenurial skills in a more welcoming economy

A caller on Mar Levin show last night discussed the ramifications of this bill for his business. If the workers fall for this and later decide against unionization, they have to do a secret vote - and then wait two years.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 11:30:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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Only employ people you know and trust.


14 posted on 03/05/2009 11:31:26 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: silverleaf

make that Mark Levin
you might still hear the show in his archives


15 posted on 03/05/2009 11:31:58 AM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: gieriscm; vollmond

A new business entity and investor, you, can buy the assets of the old company and hire temporaries from a temp agency. They workers are paid by the agency, not you, and they are employees of the agency. You pay the agency and send back any slackers for replacement.

Make sure this policy and plan of action is known to your employees now.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 11:34:13 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: hdbc

If it was me, I’d close my doors. Let the union hire the employees who lost their jobs.


17 posted on 03/05/2009 11:37:06 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: hdbc

Get your assets into another corporation and then you have the option - after the required period of time - of bankrupting the unionized business and either selling off the assets or starting up again.

You do this by having a leasing company that leases the assets to the old corporation. These needs to be done by a good attorney to ensure that the corporate veil cannot be pierced.


18 posted on 03/05/2009 11:37:53 AM PST by Aria
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Get your assets into another corporation and then you have the option - after the required period of time - of bankrupting the unionized business and either selling off the assets or starting up again.

You do this by having a leasing company that leases the assets to the old corporation. These needs to be done by a good attorney to ensure that the corporate veil cannot be pierced.


19 posted on 03/05/2009 11:38:31 AM PST by Aria
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I despise the unions.

I worked for a union shop once.

What a nightmare.

I had two bosses, my manager and the shop steward, both working at cross purposes. One telling me to do more, and the other telling me to do less. I HATED it.

The shop steward and union president acted and talked like street thugs. It was the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. What a bunch of communist, low-life gorillas.

I couldn’t wait to get out of there. I found a non-union job after just three months. What a relief.


20 posted on 03/05/2009 11:38:34 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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