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"Francisco's Money Speech" ("So you think that money is the root of all evil?")
Ayn Rand | Ayn Rand

Posted on 03/05/2009 10:11:35 AM PST by jessduntno

"Francisco's Money Speech" by Ayn Rand (August 30, 2002)

"So you think that money is the root of all evil?" said Francisco d'Anconia. "Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

"When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears not all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor--your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money, Is this what you consider evil?

"Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes.


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To: ClearCase_guy
Look, I agree money has been demonized unfairly and that is a problem.

Money is...money, just a tool an instrument to get things done in a consistent and efficient manner.

Just like the nut-bags on the left enshrine Diversity as the solution to all of our problems, so does Rand go a little nutty with the "money is the root of all good" line.

I don't expect Rand the Objectivist to know or care about the Bible and as for "moral?" Please...Libertarians and Objectivists are amoral at best.

All the being said, I like money a lot. I could use more if it.

21 posted on 03/05/2009 10:44:10 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: techno
You don't need Ayn Rand to learn Capitalism. I've never read it and understand capitalism just fine. Being Christian is a large part of making capitalism work, IMHO. The cold, hard, face of capitalism will be overthrown if there is never any rational mercy in the equation.

I know that statement will generate ire, so let me give an example. You own an apartment and your renter is a day late. You contact them and say, "Your late, Get out!" He says, "I can pay tommorrow". Do you throw them out and wait for another renter, or wait to see if they pay"? There has to be some rational mercy to make capitalism work, otherwise it will be overthrown by another system, socialism. You may have the right to enforce the contract, but is that the best business sense? I think Jesus makes us slower to anger and more reasonable beings. Ayn Rand makes us into cold robotic type beings with no compassion.

Her principles are explained in he writings and show an "in your face" type of capitalism that is needed for some to understand the differences from other systems. Many today think food stamps and welfare programs are part of the capitalist system. Others seem to think Jesus would want this. Jesus taught that the CHURCH was responsible for the poor, not government. Telling someone where the welfare office is, is not what Jesus was looking for. Jesus didn't teach this and Ayn Rand certainly didn't teach this. Lennin, Stalin, and Mao, did, however.

22 posted on 03/05/2009 10:45:02 AM PST by chuckles
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To: AreaMan
Within a religious context, Rand clearly doesn't "get it" and she is a poor guide for one's soul.

Within a secular context, one generally must choose bewtween seeing Collectivism as the best path, or Individualism as the best path. Rand makes a strong case for the morality of respect for Individuals and the work that they accomplish.

The religious context is the best context of all -- but for those millions of people who have a secular worldview, Rand makes a worthwhile guide.

23 posted on 03/05/2009 10:50:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: chuckles

“There has to be some rational mercy to make capitalism work.”

No, there doesn’t. Capitalism is self-correcting, with or without mercy.

Christianity is the reason why socialism cannot die in the West; it gives the people the false impression that self-abnegation, particularly self-sacrifice, is noble in itself.


24 posted on 03/05/2009 10:51:24 AM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: MtnClimber
My opinion is that the lust for power over other men is one of the worst forms of evil.

Can't argue with that.

25 posted on 03/05/2009 10:51:41 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: ClearCase_guy
Within a secular context, one generally must choose bewtween seeing Collectivism as the best path, or Individualism as the best path. Rand makes a strong case for the morality of respect for Individuals and the work that they accomplish.

I agree, collectivism is poison. Rand's world is preferable. The problem is nobody lives in a world without moral rules or guidance, well not for very long.

26 posted on 03/05/2009 10:57:20 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: Lurker

I saw a movie last evening:”The Passion of Ayn Rand”.
Made her look like cheating wife except her husband approved.

Kinda put the damper on my love for AS.


27 posted on 03/05/2009 11:07:59 AM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: devistate one four
I saw a movie last evening:”The Passion of Ayn Rand”.

Actually she was fairly nutty in her personal life but compared to most politicians she was a saint.

28 posted on 03/05/2009 11:11:40 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: All
The point here is that money is a tool, gold itself is a tool, and your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. relegating money to the position of 'tool' elevates the productive person. Bogging down the discussion of this speech in the religiosity of the Biblical quote causes one to miss the lesson.

Asking 10 people if they have heard the money is the root of all evil quote would quickly reveal that the person neither is religious, nor well versed in the Bible. Much like the characters this speech is directed at. Rand is starting at the base of where her readers most likely are. She is not starting at where she is, nor most Freepers for that matter.

Keeping in mind this is a story about producers and looters. Producers who see money as a tool to get what they need to be and remain productive vs. the looters who view people like Reardon, Fransciso, and Dagney as evil money rich people.

Oddly it is the looters whose envy, jealousy, greed have created this world of Atlas Shrugged. Yet it is their class envy etc., the oil company executive of Wyatt's Oil, etc. owe them. Owe them jobs, welfare, even their very minds genius.

Ugh? Sounds real familiar...

29 posted on 03/05/2009 11:14:39 AM PST by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: JHBowden
Christianity is the reason why socialism cannot die in the West;...

I think you mean "the misuse of Christianity"
Otherwise that would mean you don't know what the words Christianity or Socialism actually mean.

30 posted on 03/05/2009 11:15:31 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: scfischer7

How about this one........”judge not lest you be judged”


31 posted on 03/05/2009 11:34:12 AM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: sleepwalker
I just finished that chapter last night. I love the book and have to admit that at age 66 I am just getting to Ayn Rand.

In your defense, it is a long book! :-)

Rand can be ponderous at times in her prose, but It's still worth reading and thinking about.

32 posted on 03/05/2009 11:37:49 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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BFL


33 posted on 03/05/2009 11:52:18 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: techno

Young people really do need to be given more books that affirm the principles of capitalism. But, imho, ten would be too young for reading “Atlas Shrugged”. There are some graphic descriptions of sex in the novel, and the story suggests sleeping with one partner after another is OK. That’s the main reason why I won’t even let our 13yo read it.

What book would be appropriate, though, I wonder? Some of us are giving our children books like, “What Ever Happened to Penny Candy?” which explains economics in an easy-to-understand way. But, what kind of novels out there for young people celebrate capitalism...? Just wondering if anyone knows.


34 posted on 03/05/2009 12:13:34 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: AreaMan

The “Love of” always gets left out.


35 posted on 03/05/2009 12:55:49 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: sleepwalker
Once you finish "Atlas" pick up some of her non-fiction.

"The Virtue of Selfishness" is a great read as is "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal"

She wrote nearly as much non-fiction as she did fiction and it's almost all worth a read.

Best,

L

36 posted on 03/05/2009 1:23:30 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: devistate one four
Kinda put the damper on my love for AS.

Did the fact that Hemingway was a womanizing drunkard kill the demand for his books? Did the fact that Van Gogh was a certifiable nutjob change the fact that he was a brilliant artist?

37 posted on 03/05/2009 2:06:32 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Did the fact that Van Gogh was a certifiable nutjob change the fact that he was a brilliant artist?

'Ear 'ear!



sorry...

38 posted on 03/05/2009 2:14:45 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Lurker

No and No but, my perception of the lady is different now.
She’s still absolutly a fine writer.


39 posted on 03/05/2009 2:26:36 PM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: Tired of Taxes
But, what kind of novels out there for young people celebrate capitalism...? Just wondering if anyone knows.

Never read it, but decades ago, The Incredible Bread Machine by Susan Love Brown and others, was very popular. It was based loosely on a poem by R.W. Grant entitled 'Tom Smith and His Incredible Bread Machine'.

Rand liked Calumet K, which is available for free on line.
40 posted on 03/05/2009 3:43:33 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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