Posted on 02/28/2009 6:34:06 AM PST by steve-b
Again, I’m not saying she deserved the alleged mistreatment. I’m saying the news station was remiss in not fully reporting and/or investigating the story. Watch the tape. According to the husband (who wasn’t there), his wife was an innocent crime victim who was arrested by a confused deputy for no reason. The “reporter” did not ask one question. Was your wife drinking? Was she intoxicated? Did she verbally abuse the police? Did she resist the police? Take the Rodney King case. Most sane people agree, he didn’t deserve his beating. But, by the same token, the media at least reported he had been drinking, eluded police, verbally abused a female officer and resisted arrest. The reporter in this case didn’t ask one question.
I’m saying that if you act crazy, drunk, violent and make statements that can be understood to mean you have the intent to hurt or kill yourself they will strip you and lock you up naked to make absolutely sure you lack any means other than your own teeth and fingernails that could possibly be used to hurt yourself.
Brought to you by the Trial Lawyer’s Association by sueing “deep pocket” taxpayers everytime some darwin nominee finally wins an award while in custody.
This lady will get a smallish shut up and go away award from the city’s liability insurance, the lawyer she hired will take a goodish chunk of it for very little actual effor.
If she had actually been serious and managed to kill herself because she had not been stripped, the TLA wouldn’t have taken a settlement, they’d go for a nice fat jury award for the family’s pain and suffering caused by the wrongful death of their beloved because the negligent officers didn’t strip her naked and deprive her of the bra he strangled herself with or the panties she choked herself to death with.
It isn’t just the cops who are out of control, it’s lawyers and judges and juries that have brought us to this sorry state of affairs.
Stripping the dumb twit naked was a sane response to an insane tort system. TAANSTAAFL
What will it take for cops to clean up their own? Will it take direct action by citizens who decide they've had enough and start seeking revenge and all that entails on any cop they happen to come across? Some cops clearly aren't fit to live along side decent American citizens. These "deputies" are the sort who should consider changing their names and moving out of the country.
You’re fighting a losing battle because there is no question that could have been asked that can possibly support what the police did. I know you are making a point about the news story, but you must see that the point you are trying to make ends in an attempt to besmurch the victim of their crime.
LOL! More guaranteed income for lawyers. The city and the police department will still get sued, the lawyers will still get paid and we will still be stripping stupid/crazy/drunk people naked if they make statements of self harm. This is a sane response to an insane tort system.
But this woman will get paid by taxpayers for being a stupid obnoxious drunk. Wanna bet she blacked out and has no memory of the entire evening and was horrified to wake up naked in a holding cell? Wanna bet she denies ANY contributory responsibility for her predicament?
Insane tort culture + victimhood culture = thugocracy and you think the TLA has no share in it? You're a fool.
There is zero evidence — zero — that this woman was either drunk or stupid, as you assert.
I saw nothing from the text that refuted what the article said about her: she was the victim of an assault, and then the victim of a stupid twit of a cop that couldn’t tell the difference between perp and victim.
If you have any such evidence, produce it.
Otherwise, I think you are firmly establishing yourself as the bona fide fool.
From the "I swear I am not making this up" file:
Judge Rules That Police Can Bar High I.Q. ScoresA Federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by a man who was barred from the New London police force because he scored too high on an intelligence test.
In a ruling made public on Tuesday, Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven agreed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, was denied an opportunity to interview for a police job because of his high test scores. But he said that that did not mean Mr. Jordan was a victim of discrimination.
Judge Dorsey ruled that Mr. Jordan was not denied equal protection because the city of New London applied the same standard to everyone: anyone who scored too high was rejected....
I expect she will get a much larger award for being raped then she would have if she had managed to kill herself. In the one case the deputies did it to her, in the other she would have done it to herself. I expect this will be a jury trial and absolutely humongous award she wins.
No, she will get paid by taxpayers because she encountered a herd of stupid obnoxious cops.
Do you realize that the US Supreme Court held in Bad Elk v. United States, 177 U.S. 529 that it was permissible (or at least defensible) to shoot an officer who displays a gun with intent to commit a warrantless arrest based on insufficient cause. It ruled that (police) officers who executed an arrest without proper warrant were themselves considered trespassers, and any trespassee had a right to violently resist (or even assault and batter) an officer to evade such arrest.
Where is there a requirement for any news organization to be required to present both sides of an argument? As long as the film was unedited the viewer can decide what other information might be warranted.
Kids, don’t try this one at home as you would be dead and never ever get your day in court.
I didn't recommend this action, I only referenced it to show how far from the constitution today's law enforcement officers and agencies have strayed. There is little comfort in being found innocent posthumously.
I understood where you were coming from, I was just reinforcing your point.
Oy! Krankor, you must keep in mind that you are a disinterested observer. If you saw a tape of your own wife (mother, daughter, etc.) experiencing the identical treatment that was recorded on this tape, I guarantee you that your first instinct, and even your second, third, and fourth instincts, would not involve any kind of breakdown of questioning along the lines you bring up (was she drunk, did she mouth off, did she do this or that?) I’d be willing to bet the farm.
Which is why I posed it as a question, sir.
If not for the TV News channel breaking this story, this probably would have been swept under the rug. Biased or not, at least it gave an opportunity for an FBI investigation. Hopefully justice will be served.
She should tell them to eat sand and get her day in court. Hopefully she gets a decent lawyer. Hope these creeps get prison time.
http://www.the-review.com/news/article/4515802
On June 8, 2007, Steffey was tried and convicted by an Alliance Municipal Court jury of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest for events leading up to her arrest in October 2006.
During that criminal trial, evidence was produced that at the time of her arrest Steffey was under the influence of alcohol and medication and was not the victim of an assault.
Evidence showed that on that day, Steffey had assaulted her niece, who was six months pregnant, and that she had also attacked and choked her teenage nephew.
http://www.the-review.com/news/article/4515802
On June 8, 2007, Steffey was tried and convicted by an Alliance Municipal Court jury of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest for events leading up to her arrest in October 2006.
During that criminal trial, evidence was produced that at the time of her arrest Steffey was under the influence of alcohol and medication and was not the victim of an assault.
Evidence showed that on that day, Steffey had assaulted her niece, who was six months pregnant, and that she had also attacked and choked her teenage nephew.
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