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The Capitalist Threat ( George Soros speaks)
Atlantic Monthly ^ | February 1997 | George Soros

Posted on 02/19/2009 10:01:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

What kind of society do we want? "Let the free market decide!" is the often-heard response. That response, a prominent capitalist argues,undermines the very values on which open and democratic societies depend.

IN The Philosophy of History, Hegel discerned a disturbing historical pattern -- the crack and fall of civilizations owing to a morbid intensification of their own first principles. Although I have made a fortune in the financial markets, I now fear that the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life is endangering our open and democratic society. The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat.

The term "open society" was coined by Henri Bergson, in his book The Two Sources of Morality and Religion (1932), and given greater currency by the Austrian philosopher Karl Popper, in his book The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945). Popper showed that totalitarian ideologies like communism and Nazism have a common element: they claim to be in possession of the ultimate truth. Since the ultimate truth is beyond the reach of humankind, these ideologies have to resort to oppression in order to impose their vision on society. Popper juxtaposed with these totalitarian ideologies another view of society, which recognizes that nobody has a monopoly on the truth; different people have different views and different interests, and there is a need for institutions that allow them to live together in peace. These institutions protect the rights of citizens and ensure freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Popper called this form of social organization the "open society." Totalitarian ideologies were its enemies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bho2009; democrats; economy; neomarxism; obama; obamasmaster; obamasoros; opensociety; socialism; sorocrats; soros
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Traitorous bustard from hell.


41 posted on 02/19/2009 10:48:58 AM PST by Quix (POL BOSSES say fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: freekitty
There is a thread about that:

But I am not finding it as yet....

42 posted on 02/19/2009 10:50:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Just posted this...it is worth watching:

Stimulus Should: Reward People Who CARRY the Water instead of Those Who DRINK the Water! (CNBC rant)

43 posted on 02/19/2009 10:51:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: shankbear


44 posted on 02/19/2009 10:52:51 AM PST by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The huge outrage is that this tool was EVER granted American citizenship. He has worked since then to destroy our country. He is hypocritical to the utmost degree. If capitalism is so bad, let’s take away all his money and give him “according to his need.” His motto should be “Capitalism for me but not for thee.”


45 posted on 02/19/2009 10:55:20 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: freekitty
There are several threads ...but I posted this one touched on the run on Money Markets:

Rep. Kanjorski: $550 Billion Disappeared in "Electronic Run On the Banks" ( Sept 15,2008)

Doesn't answer where the money went....

46 posted on 02/19/2009 11:00:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Soros probably fashions himself as the anti-Ann Randist, both from the same generation. Ann attempted to be consistent -- word and deed match -- but for Soros that little word/deed thingy (nobody should notice) is the biggest of his problems. For example, Soros the Capitalist pig doesn't want to renounce his wealth but wants us to for our own good. The Capitalist pig hates all Capitalist pigs so while he is the Capitalist pig, par excellence, he wants all potential Capital pigs to put aside their piggish ways (not to walk on hind feet and smoke cigars no doubt). He says all this while smoking the biggest cigar money can buy. Yes, Ann Rand should have debated Soros and kicked hiss sorry ass back to Hungry. There he could live like he wants us to live, in the workers paradise.
47 posted on 02/19/2009 11:13:40 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks.


48 posted on 02/19/2009 11:16:06 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TChris
What a dangerous, egotistical, hypocritical jerk.

And he is the head banker for the Democrat party -- which is chock full of dangerous, egotistical, hypocritical jerks.

49 posted on 02/19/2009 11:19:58 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

May I remind everyone that George Soros was a student of Fabian socialism at the London School of Economics in 1949.


50 posted on 02/19/2009 11:21:40 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There are many many things this slime could be called, and they would be accurate, but a prominent capitalist IS NOT one of them.
51 posted on 02/19/2009 11:24:12 AM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/george-soros-on-helping-the-nazis-during-the-holocaust


52 posted on 02/19/2009 11:32:34 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: PsyOp; shankbear

Careful guys,.,,,getting close to the line.


53 posted on 02/19/2009 11:36:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just read the whole thing. I think the problem he has, as with most materialists, is he confuses an economic system, that is laissez-faire capitalism, with the real moral/political system that produced and oversees it, namely ethically Christian representative democracy.

Hence Soros sees a valueless (and heartless) social Darwinist capitalism as the opposite pole of a strict-government-forced-values totalitarianisms—and therefore a kind, cooperative “open society” as the happy mean between.

Soros’ analysis is quite interesting actually—from 11+ years ago—in that he ignores or minimizes religion as an important factor, and a key element in how “cooperative” (his words)(that would be “caring”) a society can be, even while being competitive in economics.

As far as “fallibility” being the standard for an “open society” he’s partly right...as Christian ethics have always maintained everyone is a sinner, and flawed in our understanding and practice of ethics—hence the huge number of checks and balances in the American system of governance. However, the idea that everyone must just limp-wristedly admit we cannot know right from wrong...as the organizing basis of society, is a recipe for madness and anarchy, IMHO.


54 posted on 02/19/2009 11:40:44 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: jonrick46

I thought he studied with Karl Popper there?


55 posted on 02/19/2009 11:41:42 AM PST by Borges
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Admin. please delete. Thnx.


56 posted on 02/19/2009 11:44:24 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

INTREP


57 posted on 02/19/2009 11:48:07 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: AnalogReigns
Excellent summary.

After reading the whole article, I was exhausted from all the slogging thru fundamental misconceptions.

Soros simply does not recognize the role of religion -- and its impact on ethics and morality. Whether it's Judeo-Christian capitalism...or Buddhist capitalism...or Hindu capitalism...or Shinto capitalism, etc....it is the religion that is expected to inform our morality and ethics. Not the economic system.

Capitalism, by itself, is only an economic system -- which happens to be the most efficient means of organizing an economy for the betterment of all. Which, when you stop and think about it, is a pretty moral outcome...

Soros is a capitalist giant. And a moral midget. He has no business projecting himself on the rest of us.

58 posted on 02/19/2009 11:52:53 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

George Soros: the man that makes Bernie Madoff look like a common shoplifter.


59 posted on 02/19/2009 12:25:54 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Zer0’s puppet master.


60 posted on 02/19/2009 12:27:52 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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