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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: Publius

Please add me to the ping list. Thanks.


281 posted on 01/17/2009 6:34:13 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Publius
Was Dagny Taggart smokin' hot?

Cheers!

282 posted on 01/17/2009 6:48:42 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rodguy911
The other problem with Randians (from the little I have seen) is that they reject compassion altogether.

Don't know if this necessarily derives from their atheism, as you can find hints of this among Rush Limbaugh's ("talent on loan from God" therefore not a atheist) discussions .

Cheers!

283 posted on 01/17/2009 6:53:18 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DrC
Ayn Rand wanted Farrah Fawcett to star, but the project never materialized.

My head just exploded.

...did I say that Dagny Taggart was smokin' HOT, or what?

Cheers!

284 posted on 01/17/2009 6:59:07 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Publius
Please add me to the ping list.

Cheers!

285 posted on 01/17/2009 7:02:30 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Publius

Count me in. Thanks.


286 posted on 01/17/2009 7:21:38 AM PST by austingirl
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To: r9etb
LOL! I remember that . . .

Thanks for putting the great Ayn Rand's work in proper perspective. I'd often thought Atlas Shrugged should have been nominated for the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest. Sadly, John Galt’s seemingly endless verbal assaults forced on the populace cannot be condensed enough to fit within the rules of the contest.

Succinctly put, the books message is: 1. Socialism is bad, 2. God doesn't exist and 3. Its OK to be a marriage wrecking whore if you're an entrepreneur.

287 posted on 01/17/2009 8:06:04 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: Publius

I loved Atlas Shrugged! I haven’t read it in 20 years. Please sign me up.


288 posted on 01/17/2009 8:29:08 AM PST by BamaGirl (If I give Obama 76 cents will he stop clamoring for change?)
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To: Publius

An excellent idea. Long overdue. There should also be two booklists for conservatives: an essential and an exhaustive. Conservatives never seem to agree on them but we should give it a shot anyway. Count me in.


289 posted on 01/17/2009 11:02:28 AM PST by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: Publius

Add me please.


290 posted on 01/17/2009 11:55:13 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Publius

Please add me to list, Publius.

Thanks!


291 posted on 01/17/2009 12:15:56 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Publius

Please add me to the ping list. Many thanks. I am particularly fond of The Federalist Papers and I eagerly await the chance to discuss them.

Thank you again for your efforts.


292 posted on 01/17/2009 12:22:38 PM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: Publius
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money

Great description of socialism!

293 posted on 01/17/2009 1:43:54 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: grey_whiskers
If you were going to pick one group of conservative thinkers that defy stereotyping its probably we Randians.

I'm a Christian. Used to be a Methodist until I witnessed leaders of my church force/send a youngster into the arms of the Castro brothers. Stuff like that wakes you up.

294 posted on 01/17/2009 4:05:04 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Publius
"Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction."

I was one of those. My eyes couldn't take 400 pages of the tiny-est print.

Add me to your list and I will try again.

295 posted on 01/17/2009 8:46:11 PM PST by Spunky ((You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences))
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To: Publius

Please add me to your ping list.

Thanks


296 posted on 01/18/2009 6:47:54 AM PST by MrsPatriot (W...Still the President!)
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To: Publius

Cool, Publius - count me in! I finally read Atlas Shrugged for the first time about 3 years ago, since I’d heard about it forever and wanted to understand the “Who is John Galt” references I kept reading/hearing. It’s an awesome book, and I could see why my California public educators never assigned it to me... LOL.

Is there even a Cliffs Notes of this book? I imagine it would be as thick as a normal pocket-paperback...


297 posted on 01/18/2009 7:10:25 AM PST by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: The Louiswu

Agree, yet early on with decades of commie infiltration, as outlined in their “manifesto” - so it’s both early on in the book yet also well underway. Television and more recently, the internet being such powerful tools; useful to influence, train and motivate the 2 minutes hate Orwell wrote of (but didn’t envision internet-led 24/7/365 hate of President Bush, apparently).


298 posted on 01/18/2009 7:18:11 AM PST by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: AmericanGirlRising

That is funny; good for you for making sure Lewis saw it. Rock ON, AmericanGirlRising!


299 posted on 01/18/2009 7:20:59 AM PST by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: MrB

And Sowell’s “Vision of the Annointed...” book - I’ve bought & “loaned” out a few copies, not to mention distributing Sowell’s “Applied Economics,” which is such an awesome book!


300 posted on 01/18/2009 7:42:47 AM PST by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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