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Importance of the newly located Dunham/Obama Sr divorce decree in proving ineligibility
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Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie

Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).

The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.

Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).

The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie

Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************

No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.

This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.

I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1realbc; artbell; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; conspiracy; dunham; eligibility; fantasy; itouchmyself; obama; obamafamily; speculation; tinfoilforeveryone; ufoanalprobe; whokilledrogerrabbit; wombatsareevil
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To: The Sons of Liberty
To: The Sons of Liberty If anyone could have gotten to the bottom of the “place of birth” question, it would have been the Clintons. And since they were not able to succeed, forget it!

Can you provide any link that says the Clintons could not find anything on Obama? Or is this supposition?

More to the matter is the Clintons are just as bought and paid for as Obama and they do not dare buck the system they aligned themselves with. Those who paid for their enslavement would ruin them. Soros and moveon.org, mediamatters, dailykos, factcheck.org would have them out of the country in shame so quick their heads would roll.

201 posted on 01/03/2009 9:09:57 AM PST by MirandaRietz
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To: RummyChick
The guy who did the write up about the social security number being active failed to realize ( and I tried to explain it on FR) that my dead grandmother..who died in the early 90s...still shows up on Intellius with what her age would be today but she is stone cold dead buried in the cemetary.

Yes, but did your grandmother go to a mortuary for burial or cremation and does your grandmother have a burial plot or anything death certificate from a hospital, physician, coroner as to time of death? If someone questioned my grandmother's death I would have the mortuary and time of death records to show and her burial plot plus tons of witnesses who viewed her body. Okay, so not everyone goes for that viewing and burial thing but in the U.S. we document births and deaths.

As far as I know there are no documents on either Stanley Ann or Madelyn in a hospital, physicians, burial plot, cremation order, nada. Obama says he threw the ashes over the Pacific. His sister Maya never mentions Obama was there when she threw the ashes in the pacific of their mother.

Maya says Obama was born in two different hospitals so maybe she just forgets a lot.

202 posted on 01/03/2009 9:09:57 AM PST by MirandaRietz
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To: patriot08; All

Just posted on other thread by patriot:


I just picked this up in the chat room at plainsradio-

Missing papers:
proof of service, notice of motion with exhibits, proposed order

1,212 posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:47:43 AM by


203 posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:24 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: expatpat
His mother was a US citizen, which is enough to give him natural-born status in all but perhaps a purely technical way.

And the COLB posted on his website that all leftists have used as evidence of his Hawaii birth? The Rathergate-like consequences would unravel the entire fraud named Obama.

204 posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:33 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: autumnraine

what about voter registrations. do they have them for all the states?

I believe there could be something to the rumor about Boeing suspecting Dad of espionage.

Mom works at a bank, and dad suddenly decides to go to Hawaii to sell furniture...but maybe he was sent there because of the communists there.

I just can’t believe Obama , the black hole, is going to be our President.


205 posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:49 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a032108clintonpassport

back then, we didn’t recognize the significance of what might have been in those passport files


206 posted on 01/03/2009 9:13:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: urtax$@work
As a word of warning on the deviations.... stay clear of poster “Star Traveler”

ROTFLMAO....the posters moniker is one of truth indeed.

207 posted on 01/03/2009 9:13:49 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: freepersup; dascallie; LucyT; STARWISE; Calpernia; pissant; Fred Nerks; Kevmo; Gemsbok; Polarik

CLICK HUSSEIN

208 posted on 01/03/2009 9:14:49 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: MirandaRietz

I am not saying Obama’s mother couldnt be alive. What I am saying is that you can’t base it on a search on Intellius and that is what the original writer of the story did by saying her social security number was active on Intellius.


209 posted on 01/03/2009 9:15:42 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: WellyP

for those who don’t speak Spanish, the names of the towns “Palo Cagao” and “Pinga Dura” are dirty jokes, not real places.


210 posted on 01/03/2009 9:16:01 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: autumnraine; svcw
But the way his mother’s name was written apparently led them to another document showing a point of entry when Obama was born

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Use your head. How, in 1961, did one travel from Kenya to Hawaii? There is no commercial aircraft flying today that could make the trip non-stop. This means an alternate "POE" into the US.

By cruise ship? What cruise line has a Honolulu - Mombassa route?

The vaunted divorce decree does nothing but prove that bambi's were in fact married in Hawaii before he was born.

211 posted on 01/03/2009 9:16:04 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: MirandaRietz

I don’t see what you are talking about.

here is Indiana
They voted for Obama
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008-certificates/vote-indiana-01.html


212 posted on 01/03/2009 9:19:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: silverleaf

Thanks. I was willing to run the searcg but you sent me a link anyway.

FReepers are the best!


213 posted on 01/03/2009 9:20:01 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: wtc911

Nor did they have pamper available in Africa....Think of the luggage she would have had just to carry enough diapers....

I repeat she could NOT have traveled by herself. Would her mother have gone with her to meet the in-laws? Would her new husband travel with her?

We may be able to find the information indirectly, if we can find a data base that list the names of port of entries during that time period.


214 posted on 01/03/2009 9:21:29 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: John Valentine

My apology. I should have realized your post was in response to a misguided statement by another.


215 posted on 01/03/2009 9:22:06 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: sevinufnine
and the CONGRESS may BY LAW provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified

Right, I saw that as well - except a VP-elect HAS qualified, so this power of Congress is not called into action.

Amendment XII, ratified in 1804, is the source for the candidates from which the House may choose, as follows:

"The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. "

216 posted on 01/03/2009 9:22:23 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: dascallie

His mother was an American citizen. I know full well that the law in operation at the time did not allow her, due to her age, the right to confer on Obama national-born citizen status if he were born outside the U.S.

Nevertheless, it is a technicality. He is the child of an American citizen and most Americans will not see the difference. And. I assure you, no Court will grant you the difference.

The Supremes have all but spoken in that the EC must determine this. They already did.

This case is closed. No way, no how does Obama get invalidated. Even if you prove to be technically correct with this argument, you will not change the facts on the ground.

The facts on the ground are this: Barack Obama is going to be the next President of the United States and no Democrat Senate will impeach him. His term in office will go to Jan 20, 2013.

Get used to this idea.

Nothing here can or will change that.


217 posted on 01/03/2009 9:24:18 AM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: expatpat

His mother was a US citizen, which is enough to give him natural-born status in all but perhaps a purely technical way.”

NATURAL BORN means BORN ON US SOIL. Period.

Naturalized is another category.

This part of the topic has been discussed over and over again on this forum.

Based on the laws on the books of the USA at the time of Stanley Ann’s giving birth to NObama, he is not eligible. She had to be at least 19 years of age by that set of laws, and she was 17 when she got knocked up and 18 when she had NObama.

I am still puzzled how there could be a divorce—following a marriage to a man who already had a wife and 2 kids in Kenya.
If your new “hubby” has his other wife and family in another country, it doesn’ count towards bigamy?????


218 posted on 01/03/2009 9:27:02 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: dascallie
"Another clue! Which will lead to another clue, which will lead to another clue. That's all there will ever be--another clue."
219 posted on 01/03/2009 9:27:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TheCipher; stockpirate
Current law does’nt apply, it goes by the law at that time.

You are missing the point. That is true, but do you really believe that an elected candidate for POTUS is going to be rejected because of a regulation that was rescinded over 30 years ago and is invalid today, even if it were valid 45 years ago? Especially when, if his mother had been a few years older when he was born, even that old regulation would not have been an issue?

Nice try.....

220 posted on 01/03/2009 9:28:14 AM PST by expatpat
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