Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
too bad
John / Billybob
I think the flaw with his case was that he tried to argue British Common Law as original intent.
Well duh. How often does the U.S. Supreme Court hear lawsuits brought on by conspiracy theorists and their latest "cause"?
If the Court is going to be really uptight, as they often are, they might be waiting for the Electoral College to actually meet and vote for BO, and then could hear an appeal that contains the facts.
Well, we can only hope...
But you know the Sheeple aren't going to get the truth from Congress and their lap-dogs in the media. When you have a press that won't report the truth, won't hound-dog, pile-on, lie-about, and generally scream to high heaven about virtually any Dim...the Sheeple voters won't rip their eyes away from Dancing with the Stars..and/or Jerry Springer.
I'll say it again and again.....The MSM / DBM are THE most dangerous entity in the U.S.A.
Thanks - I just want to be patient here and not take credence in those shouting "move on". The man has not shown us anything from his past so thank God for Leo and others....and there are many others!
FRiends supporting these efforts need to stand by for media backlash - take that with a grain of salt as well and have patience and continued support.
So what is the status of Cort’s case. Leo said that he felt Cort’s case was even stronger than his.
Wish an opinion was given. But know the Justices often do not give an opinion.
I don’t consider FReepers who are merely asking for proof of Obama’s legitimate claim to be a natural born citizen. When his own grandmother (paternal) claims she was present for his birth in Kenya, and the Kenyans erect a monument to state he was born there, I can understand the questioning of Obama’s legitimacy.
If there is really nothing here, then why won’t Obama just release the actual proof, instead of the forged birth certificate?
Because this case claimed that Obama was not a citizen because his father was not. It never had a chance. Citizens are are either Natural Born or Naturalized, if you accept he is a citizen and has not been naturalized he is natural born.
As to the birth certificate, Hillary checked this in January (remember the State workers fired for looking in the files) and presumably came up with nothing.
It does seem that the Constitution is based on honor at the highest levels. I guess the question isn't whether America deserves to survive but whether Americans really deserve democracy.
This means it couldn’t even get four votes. THAT is the disappointing thing.
Which of the four - Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito - wouldn’t vote for this to be heard??????
We’re losing the Republic, one vote at a time.
and anyone that thinks it makes sense for 0bama to go through all this trouble to avoid showing a simple birth certificate, really needs to stop drinking the kool-aid
You are SO Right.... Why spend $500,000. to keep it from the public if you don't have a thing to hide but TRUTH!!!!!!
Actually, his case was that the NJ Sec of State did not verify that Obama was an eligible candidate (Donofrio v. Wells).
I don’t believe this denial has ANYTHING to do with Obama’s eligibility at this point. But, then, I’m no Constitutional scholar (Capt. Obvious makes an appearance).
Yeah. The honor system. You know, like our voting system.
Yes, I think however, if any of these come from electors legally required to vote for O based on their state's laws, that would have the most standing out of all, especially if they kept the case simple, requesting qualification verification to ensure they are not illegally voting themselves.
I will now refer to Øbama as “his illigitimacy.” This time, it’s an apt description of the occupant of the HW.
Well, to be fair, we are talking about politicians here. They would spend a half a million dollars on a port-a-potty just to show they can.
You said — “one can hope can’t one...??....if they do not give a reason then imho i think the American people should demand answers...this falls at the heart of our constitution....”
You can hope, but you can hope until “Kingdom Come” because they don’t give a reason or grounds....
You will not hear their reasoning. The Supreme Court does not give explanations for not hearing a case.
Cases are largely rejected for two reasons:
- Not important enough or suitable enough for the Supreme Court to address, given that they receive _far_ more applications than they can possibly handle. The case, as written and submitted, may less meaningful than popular opinion thinks it is. IIRC, this particular case does not actually get to the heart of the matter of O’s qualifications; it only addressed one of the more obscure side issues.
- Not clear enough to render a meaningful verdict. Supreme Court rulings have profound consequences, ergo the case must be crystal clear, truly address the intended issue, and be devoid of tangents & red herrings that complicate or derail the issue. IIRC, this particular case only addressed the relevance of O’s father’s citizenship, which could be a red herring as we don’t actually know who O’s father officially is per the “sealed” birth certificate.
Considering what the submitted case actually is, and where a verdict would go, we should actually be relieved they didn’t take it.
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