Posted on 12/04/2008 6:35:54 AM PST by maquiladora
India has proof that the Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI was behind the deadly Mumbai attacks. Sources have told NDTV that ISI trained the attackers.
The names of trainers and the places where meticulous training took place are also known to the government, the sources said.
The United States is believed to have even more evidence some of which it has shared with India, they said.
The US has told Pakistan that they have proof of terrorist outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba's role and sought the arrest of its chief Hafeez Sayeed.
Sources added it is hard to imagine that Pakistan army was not aware of Mumbai attack plan. They say Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari is not fully in control and the ISI and army are calling the shots
The deadly attacks on India's financial capital left 178, including several foreigners, dead.
Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, who was in Pakistan on Wednesday, is believed to have told his Pakistani interlocutors that Washington had enough evidence to show a Pakistani hand in the attack, the sources said. (With PTI input)
This is lining up to be a very bad thing.
If India and Pakistan go at it, the chance for a nuclear war is pretty high.
“But is not worth it to STOP GLOBAL WARMING??”
Ahh... My little padawan...
You see, a nuclear exchange HELP to stop global warming!
The resultant particulate matter of millions of people, buildings, etc forced high in to the upper atmosphere would LOWER temps world-wide!
It’s called NUCLEAR WINTER...
Not on the same scale as a full-scale super-power exchange, of course.
Some targets receive a ground burst because you need to have ground effects to ensure they’re destroyed. For example, any target that’s buried underground (missile silos, etc.) would be hit with a ground burst, and one with a high yield.
I’m not an expert on the Indian or Pakistani militaries, but I would expect almost all the weapons would be airbursts.
If provable - India MUST react in a VIGOROUS military manner if Pakistan refuses to deal with the individuals and groups implicated...
Pakistan will make the wrong decision and plead ingnorance and no responsibility for the “radicals”..
This is the Islamist’s strategy.....
Pakistan is LONG overdue to have their asses whacked SEVERELY....
Make no mistake - they are the enemy....
Pakistan is the womb in the practice of delivering lunatics into the world.
I hope India delivers the overdue consequences.....
Slight correction...we're not yet outgunned.
True...but remember that India and Pakistan do not have the multiple redundant commo links we and the Soviets did during the Cold War. They may have their leaders out of harm’s way...but are the leaders going to be able to exert any kind of control? Probably not.
I do not think there will be 25% global casualties if there is a Pakistani-Indian exchange. In fact, I’ll go out on a limb and say the direct casualties will be low, say 10% of the prewar population in both nations...and that’s mostly because of the densely populated nature of the cities on both sides.
What is going to be the killers if you will are the breakdown of society (specifically law and order and transportation networks) and the food distribution networks. Neither of these were the best in either nation before the strikes, after? Good lord. Not to mention with local ionization of the air and EMP, it’s going to play havoc with most civilian radios and internet connections, and I wonder if either military is all that EMP hardened?
Not to mention...there will be a lot of well, pardon the gruesome point, but a lot of unburied corpses. Disease will become a problem due to a breakdown in health services (there may or may not be a lot of hospitals standing, but under the circumstances described, how many health care workers decide to instead, see to their families? Or, they’re dead?)
Nuclear war isn’t a good option under the best of circumstances, but we and the Soviets especially made huge investments during the Cold War to ensure the continuity of government and the survival of a significant portion of the civilian population. I have not personally seen evidence of any such efforts by India and Pakistan.
Thanks for the facts. Good to know. Saving for all my leftist friends.
That’s true. though he was not without his flaws, he kept the powder keg from exploding.
That would, of course, be about one percent of the population of the antagonists. The question is, would the consequences make the likelihood of further nuclear conflicts more likely or less likely. It may be that once somebody uses nukes, the taboo quality of using them would be gone, nuclear war no longer being unthinkable. Or possibly the horrific nature of the destruction would make future use less likely. IMHO the first possibility is more likely.
Hi, Pat. I think it is unlikely that the assasination was some kind of ‘Divorce, Pakistani-style’. As a Muslim, all he had to do was say ‘I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee’. This seems cheaper than nuclear war.
Good post. Thank you.
With the angry Indian public I bet bombs will be dropping in just a few days.
In an effort to “give the devil his due”, I have to ask: During the campaign, didn’t I hear Obama say he thought we should invade Pakistan?
Exactly.
Hasn’t anyone ELSE noticed that the “global warming” phenomenon didn’t REALLY get going “great guns” until the U.S. and Soviets STOPPED atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons in the fifties?
...and then we throw dog-poop on their shoes!
-Steve Martin
“Plus...this is a big worry...if either country or both recovers from this, it may convince some folks that nuclear war is a viable strategic option.”
India - of course - would recover. It has a far larger land mass, a much greater population, and the internal will to do so and the intellectual ability to support that will.
Pakistan would not recover.
In view of that, nuclear was does indeed become a survivable option for India.
And in view of the fact that Pakistan - the Islamic pestilence of the earth - would be all-but destroyed after such a war, it is logical to conclude that nuclear war between India and Pakistan would be a _victory_ in the stuggle of the West vs. Islam, not otherwise.
Sorry to be cold in view of the horrible loss of life. But I will ask this question for anyone reading:
Do you really, really believe that the worldwide struggle we are engaged in will be won otherwise?
- John
I appoint you an Honorary DotHead.
Shri River Rat.
I think it will .
Pakistanis and Indians live in large communities in America and England.
we would see millions of them move to these two countries along with them would be their narrow minded Islamic minds
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