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Posted on 12/03/2008 4:16:39 PM PST by dascallie
My fear.
The Supremes are going into closed conference this Friday to vote on whether or not to schedule oral presentation of the Obama eligibility suit.
At least 4 of the 9 justices have to vote yes for it to be scheduled. This is the protocol for all cases….very few ( far less than 10% from what I understand) ever get scheduled for oral hearings.
In this case, it seems there is always a technicality that shuts down the process.
And I have to wonder about the dilemma the justices must feel…if they were to vote to schedule hearings–it will be explosive.
And they know this.
On the other hand how does Chief Justice Roberts with his pledge to uphold the Constitution swear in a man as US President if he has doubts as to whether the man lied to the American people and is not a citizen?
Answer: He keeps himself remote from the most incriminating information so that he is not faced with this moral dilemma. He stays on the surface, drawing no conclusions, deductions, giving benefit of the doubt to Obama--as President Elect. He and all the justices go into hyper-automoton mode.
So I tend to think–unfortunately–that the justices DO NOT WANT TO KNOW because in "knowing" they will inevitably be forced to have doubts--–which will unequivocably force a hearing.
I think they will likely vote to keep the Pandora’s box closed on some “technicality”. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Sad but true.
And no three Wise Men either.
But that does not mean that he was not born in Hawaii.
Legal technicalities notwithstanding, we have a possible fraud of the highest order being committed and no one will take responsibility to stand up and yell, STOP! Show the damn birth certificate.
The most frustrating thing is that allegedly unqualified person can refuse to produce the evidence of his qualifications and according to all you legal opinionaters, there's nothing we can do.
Well, his Democratic opponent in the Primaries did not bring it up as an issue.
Paraphrased.
You seem very certain of that. What gives you such certainty that the court will vote unanimously against?
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Implications are not proof. Start by proving that US citizens were prohibited from traveling to Pakistan at the same time that he went there.
So well put my FRiend, I’m ping it ... Lou, you need to see this most excellent expression of the situation.
If he has doubts the case may be looked at, but there are a host of reasons to toss this thing.
I suspect that the justices see this as an academic matter, they are not political creatures and don’t think of these issues in personal terms.
The political class and the chattering media have lost all sense of public responsibility. They are in it for themselves and no one is willing to stand up and tell the nation that the emperor has no clothes.
I think you can rest assured that they will remember that. There are many people around here that think that the Justices are quiet, timid people who are always looking to avoid conflict through hyper-technicalities. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
They are territorial, power-hungry and highly intelligent... in short, every one of them could run circles around the politicians running around the hill.
If they feel that this impacts their power in relation to the other branches, then they will be inclined to take it. They don't like an overreaching Executive Branch and would not sit idly by while Obama tramples all over The Constitution by actively concealing his true history.
Finally, the network that the Justices run with on a personal level all but guarantees that they know more about the Obama story than most of us and I am sure that they are fully aware of the impact their decision will have on the country. I feel confident that the Justices place more value on the long-term survival of the Republic than on short-term emotional outbursts of certain populace parts of the population.
Look it up yourself.
This love we’re contemplating
Is worth the pain of waiting...
I am afraid he is right...but Alan Keyes surely has standing.
I know that criminal lawyers will make a big stink about this down the road for their clients....but it is too late..because Obama will have the power.
And the only person alive who knows for certain where he was born is Grandma Sara.
He would produce the BC if he were born in Hawaii. Period.
It would make him so accessible, so “one of us”—huge goodwill...lots of feel-good currency he could ride forever.
There is no reason in the world for him to withold it—other than the fact that he is fraud.He doesn’t have it. He has a COLB that was created in 2007.
The sob is a low class liar and he is getting away with the biggest in your face scam in history.
A certificate of live birth is what Obama's record looks like today. A birth certificate is what Obama's record looked like when he was born. Lots of legal maneuvering could have changed 'facts' that now appear in the Certificate of Live Birth.
That's a rather convoluted statement, when the various suits seek to enforce the particular eligibility requirement in question. Can you name a single winner of a U. S. presidential election, since the founders' era, that that winner has held any citizenship other than U. S. citizenship? This alone should bring heightened scrutiny, and in fact has. This is in fact the first test of the Constitutional requirement of natural born citizenship, in order to be eligible for the office of President.
Then, all is lost, and what's left of the Republic may as well surrender to Marxism now, if you believe that.
If the Republicans frame things properly, they could easily avoid that trap. Rather than trying to claim that he is ineligible, regard the establishment of at least prima facie eligibility as something which they would expect to be easy for Obama, but which nonetheless has to be done; for an aspiring President do dodge the issue looks bad. If a President gives the appearance of trying to weasel out of what should (if he's eligible) be a small constitutional issue, how can he be trusted with bigger ones?
I have a Birth Certificate from the U.S. Embassy and that was not accepted when my parents tried to enroll me in school or when I wanted to play Little League. I also had difficulty getting a driver’s license even though I had a U.S. Passport and the B.C. from the U.S. State Department.
In my life I have gone through U.S. Customs at airports no less than 200 times and a large percentage of those times I have been questioned, detained and or searched due to my having a U.S. Passport that states that I was not born in the U.S.
I even got tossed in jail once because a dumb cop could not understand how I could be an American citizen when I was not born in the U.S.
The fact of my being born overseas has presented many problems and I would guess that if BHO were born overseas he would have similar problems and those problems would have come to light.
I think it is time we all collectively wrote, called and emailed our congressman.
Again and again.
They WORK for us. If the numbers are large enough, they cannot ignore us.
We need to demand representation in this crisis of confidence.
Why do you think that none of the radio hosts have spoken about this in terms of constitutional issues? Obama is probably natural born, but the point is that we the people should have the right to know that fact for sure.
One of the hosts even wrote a book about the Supremes. I’d
think many of them would consider this a fascinating issue. And sociologically, there is another interesting issue here to discuss, one that has precedent with President Clinton, and the JFK election: do we always fear upsetting the nation, and subvert law if necessary? And is this really such a good thing, governing in fear of the mob?
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