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1 posted on 11/30/2008 6:43:55 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle

the passage of time does a pretty good job of eliminating the youth vote.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 6:52:04 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: outofstyle
With all due respect, youth have undeveloped brains. Brains don't become fully developed, generally, until age 26. Which is why many of them are liberal.

Many, but not all, become conservative later in life. Some brains never fully develop, as evidenced by those that are about to become in power come Jan. 20th.
3 posted on 11/30/2008 6:55:51 AM PST by marvlus
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To: outofstyle

I only have two comments. This country is bankrupt now, not 50 years from now, and the focus of the youth voters as well as the general population will soon be refocused on terrorism just as we were after 9-11. Biden pretty much spelled it out.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 7:02:44 AM PST by saganite
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This is a GREAT article.

I just hope that the idiots who run the RNC read it and take the advice. But so far they have demonstrated a marked immunity to logic and good advive.

The other issue, which the writer doesn’t mention, is that in most cases, young Americans are subjected to an incerasingly defective and selective anti-American, anti-Judaeo-Christian, anti-traditionalist brainwashing by the leftwing traitors who run the NEA, our elementary and High Schools and the overwhelming majority of our colleges.

Just this morning on FOX news there was a debate between two students at Columbia over the issue of “allowing” the military to run an ROTC program and recruit on Columbia’s campus. One Avi Edelman, a spokesperson for Columbia Democrat Students, and no doubt a stool pigeon for the leftist professors there, said that because the military discriminates against transgender and homosexual persons by the don’t ask, don’t tell policy, they shouldn’t be allowed on campus. I guess he feels we need more male privates in skirts and high heels.

The government - if the Republicans ever take over again - should stop this nonesense. Colleges which refuse to allow ROTC on campus or recruit there should lose ALL their federal aid. ALSO, any student attending such colleges should lose any federal scholarship money they might be receiving. States which provide scholarship dollars to such schools should be informed that ALL federal grant monies will be withheld from said states unless they stop supporting said colleges.

Republicans and conservatives have to be more proactive in unmasking and attacking the subversive elements which run our teaching institutions. Like the Pied Piper, they are STEALING generations of young Americans and turning them into the kind of mindless zombies who would elect an Islamophilic socialist with absolutely no qualifiying experience and close ties with unrepentent terrorists to the Highest Office in the land.

“Academic Freedom” is as absent from the Constituion as “separation of church and state” yet teh Libs have succeeded in bamaboozling an entire nation to the contrary.


7 posted on 11/30/2008 7:04:15 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: outofstyle

The youth vote is a lost cause.

They get ALL of their information from the most liberally biased sources of information. You combine that fact with how younger people haven’t lived and produced enough to know how the real world works, what it’s like to raise children and pay taxes. The liberal propaganda just naturally resonates with them.

I was one of the rare people that was a conservative when I was a teen back during the Clinton years. I was occasionally scorned by teachers and some classmates in high school. Over the years I’ve leaned more toward being a libertarian.


8 posted on 11/30/2008 7:04:36 AM PST by KoRn
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The youth vote was basically irrelevant in the last election. They turned out in relatively low numbers. The biggest area the GOP needs to make headway in is single women. They voted for the O in droves (70%).
9 posted on 11/30/2008 7:04:48 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: outofstyle

The Reps would do better to focus on the concerns of seniors. The number of those over 65 will double to 78 million by 2030. And they vote in higher numbers.


10 posted on 11/30/2008 7:06:11 AM PST by kabar
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“How can the GOP capture its fair share of the youth vote?”

The problem is in the question. What the hell is a "fair share" when it comes to survival? These kiddies have zero critical thinking skills.

11 posted on 11/30/2008 7:08:00 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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Here's where we go down a slippery slope.

There are really only two issues that strongly divide the two parties.

The Right to an Abortion and the Right to Bear Arms.

The left live in fear that we will overturn Roe vs Wade, and the right live in fear that their guns will be confiscated.

I don't have a solution to our differences, but Abortion issue is the elephant in the room with the youth vote.

FWIW, I am totally against abortion...I'm just sayin..

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13 posted on 11/30/2008 7:10:50 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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Also, the Republican Party needs to explain that my generation is paying into a broken entitlement system, our borders are broken, and radical Islam is still growing in the dark corners of the world.

Carefull. Start talking too loudly about entitlements and many of those on the Right who are already on the dole from that entitlement system will sit at home. It may even create a net loss of voters.

16 posted on 11/30/2008 7:16:41 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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Conservatism isn’t idealistic, and selling it as such will never work. However much we spend and regulate, the Dems claim we can always “do more.”

To get the youth vote, I would emphasize that conservatism allows you to customize your life almost any way you see fit. True diversity is in the marketplace. Progressives in contrast want to subordinate everyone to universal comprehensive plans— they want us all to be the same. I’d even place abortion and gay marriage in this context — we stand for local democracy, not the federal government or judges dictating these issues.

We should have been saying this all along to everyone. But too many conservatives these days are simply Christian progressives who want the federal government to do Great Deeds for Jesus. Our behavior during the Terri Schiavo affair, for instance, made us look like a horde of unprincipled wackos to most of the country.


17 posted on 11/30/2008 7:18:00 AM PST by JHBowden (Obama bin Biden: Keep the Change!)
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When they figure out that socialism kills jobs they might also figure out that political freedom requires economic freedom before prosperity can return. But I’m not holding my breath.


18 posted on 11/30/2008 7:18:09 AM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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GWB soldout on school vouchers in NCLB with Kennedy. Maybe it helped HIM get re-elected but it means kids will be indoctrinated by government worshiping liberals. But many here think short term election strategy (Ayers, Wright, etc McCain) is all that counts, then as the losses pile up they call everyone else stupid or (in some extreme cases) traitors. Not a winning strategy, something democrats HAVE had for four years.


20 posted on 11/30/2008 7:24:04 AM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA, wait til 09")
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If the GOP could somehow make the case that there is idealism in conservatism and there is an urgency of action, we wouldn't’t lose the youth vote.

In 1980 I voted for Reagan as a 20 year old who could plainly see that Jimmy Carter was weak and a blame America firster, and did not believe in the exceptional nature of this country. There was definitely an urgency requiring action at the time.

Conservatism is idealistic; republicanism is not; it is just a political party that was formerly the home of conservatives with ideas.

Idealistically, John McCain is not a conservative. His guiding political ideal is Maverickism. Cafeteria conservatism, if you will.

We should have run a dyed-in-the-wool conservative that ran against Bush's liberal policies harder than the left did. None of the primary contenders were such, except Ron Paul. I am ashamed to say that I went first with the "stop McCain" crowd in the primaries, and then voted for the dope in the general, bouyed by Palin. As it turned out, the one point so many on this board disagreed with Paul on, the war in Iraq, turns out to be a non issue.

Curiously, the one 20 something I spoke to that was not someone I knew at all, and was well informed, and was a conservative idealistically, was a Paul supporter.

If we remember well, all the energy and youth support to be found on the republican side of things was with the Paul supporters. And Ron Paul was clearly the most conservative idealistically.

We were too afraid to lose rather than win with our conservative ideals.

23 posted on 11/30/2008 7:27:51 AM PST by ecomcon
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Wow...Republicans made fun of the “hope and change” mantra

Just Wow! Republicans weren't making fun of the 'HnC' "mantra"...we were poking fun at the rubes (koolaid kids) who bought into it! Con Artists will always be around...look up "Tin Man" and Flim-Flam Artist. You guys have been had again! Name one 'idealist' philosophy you think Obama told you he was aspiring to! None...that's right, none, you can't. He simply stole the 'conservative mantra' to use a term you've used....low taxes, etc. Then made you believe it was his ideas and not the conservatives' ideas. Also known as a Con. That 's why they're called Con Artists. Soon you will learn the definition of 'lie'. and when you lie w/dogs you'll wake up with fleas. Dems will repeat this play every 4 years until it doesn't work anymore.

26 posted on 11/30/2008 7:32:17 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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Also, the Republican Party needs to explain that my generation is paying into a broken entitlement system, our borders are broken, and radical Islam is still growing in the dark corners of the world.

Mission control we have a problem, since when hasn't the big business branch of the republican party not supported broken borders and slave labor???

31 posted on 11/30/2008 7:40:11 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: outofstyle

Nothing is going to change the youth vote until they have to earn what they spend and see how little their labor is worth in terms of taxes and buying power.

I would like to propose an experiment, go into you local high school and junior high and see how many have a copy of “The Road to Serfdom” in its library. I will bet a higher percentage will have a copy of Karl Marx.


38 posted on 11/30/2008 7:53:41 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, when only the very worse will do.)
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Right on target.
and
Self-ping for later.


39 posted on 11/30/2008 7:55:29 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Do what Osama did, run a marketing campaign like you’re selling a sneaker instead of a Presidential candidate.


42 posted on 11/30/2008 8:00:49 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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It also doesn't help that the Republicans have this penchant for nominating tired career politicians. John McCain is just the latest example of the "I-did-my-20-years-in-Washington-and-now-it's-my-turn" mentality. For younger voters, people like John McCain, Bob Dole and Jack Kemp might as well be in the old Soviet Politburo.

The Republicans needed a more engergetic and charismatic candidate to go against Obama and had they done so, the end result likely would have been much different.

I also don't buy into the notion that conservatives need to write off the younger vote and it does us damage to make nonsensical comments like "younger people's brains are made of mush." We come off sounding like old farts from the 1960s who used to rail against The Beatles and long hair. It just reinforces the mentality among the impressionable young people that Republicans are "uncool" and not worthy of their consideration.

Meanwhile, the liberals, though there are plenty of old farts there as well, have successfully infiltrated youth culture and have created the impression that it is "cool" to be liberal and Democrat. The liberals have total control of our youth entertainment industry and have been able to indoctrinate young minds early through such venues as MTV, Rolling Stone magazine, Saturday Night Live and the countless "hip" talk shows such as Jon Stewart and others.

This is nothing new. Growing up during the 1970s, liberals even then had complete control of the entertainment industry. Anything in the entertainment industry even remotely conservative was a laughingstock and considered the epitome of "uncool." To wit, Anita Bryant, The Carpenters, and The Lawrence Welk Show.

Were it not for Ronald Reagan, conservatism would have been killed off 20 years ago. Reagan singlehandedly saved the Republican party and attracted tens of millions of younger people and Democrats to the conservative cause. Unfortunately, Reagan was never able to carry the GOP past the 1984 elections and ever since, it has been a slow, downhill slide as nobody since has been able to excite the younger voters in the same way.

Reagan's biggest mistake was to choose George Bush to be his running mate in 1980. He should have gone with somebody more conservative who could have been groomed to carry the mantle in 1988. Instead, we ended up with a RINO who gave way to eight years of Bill Clinton and a son who would, through his inability to articulate and communicate, drive the GOP to its lowest point since Watergate.

43 posted on 11/30/2008 8:01:11 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 90 days away from outliving John F. Kennedy)
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