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Planned Parenthood Prez Falsely Says Election Means Catholics Pro-Abortion
Life News ^ | 11/17/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/17/2008 4:21:30 PM PST by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The president of Planned Parenthood claims the election results showing a majority of Catholics supported pro-abortion candidate Barack Obama means Catholics now support abortion. However, Cecille Richards' contention doesn't square with the most recent polling results showing Catholics pro-life.

In a Monday opinion column, Richards points to the exit polling data showing 54 percent of Catholics backed Obama.

They did so, Richards says "despite entreaties from Catholic leadership to vote against Senator Obama because of his support for abortion rights."

"While this may come as a surprise to Catholic bishops who are meeting this week to discuss the election, it is consistent with what we know about the attitudes of Catholic voters," Richards claims.

Yet polling data specifically on Catholics and abortion finds otherwise.

A Marist College poll conducted in October found a majority of Catholics take a pro-life position and almost one-third of Catholic voters who say they are "pro-choice" on abortion actually oppose all or most abortions.

The Marist survey found 63 percent of Catholics say abortions should be permitted in none or almost no cases by opposing all abortions, all abortions except to save the mother's life, or all abortions except to save the mother's life or in cases of rape or incest.

That puts 63 percent of Catholics opposing about 98 percent of all abortions, according to Alan Guttmacher Institute information about when abortions are done.

Breaking down the polling data further, 72 percent of practicing Catholics take one of the three pro-life positions opposing all or almost all abortions. And 47 percent of non-practicing Catholics say they oppose all or most abortions.

In addition, the Marist College poll found just 6 percent of all Catholics, 5 percent of practicing Catholics and 8 percent of non-practicing Catholics say they agree with Barack Obama that abortions should be legal at any time during pregnancy.

With presidential exit polling data confirming the economy was far and away the number one issue on which voters made their decision for president, Richards' contention that the results show Catholics now somehow support abortion is off base.

Combining the presidential results, the exit polls and the polling data, the only plausible conclusion is that some Catholic voters backed Obama despite their disagreement with him on abortion.

"It's time all of us, including elected leaders and religious leaders, listen to the voters," Richards concludes in the editorial. Perhaps she is getting too much static.



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"While this may come as a surprise to Catholic bishops who are meeting this week to discuss the election, it is consistent with what we know about the attitudes of Catholic voters," Richards claims.

You just keep thinking that, your hubris will be your downfall.

1 posted on 11/17/2008 4:21:30 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/17/2008 4:22:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 11/17/2008 4:22:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, well a lot of Roman Catholics did vote for Obama, there’s no getting around that fact.


4 posted on 11/17/2008 4:23:18 PM PST by keeper53
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To: wagglebee

Nothing happens unless we make it happen.

The time for action is drawing near. We will need to work to return this nation to its proper place.


5 posted on 11/17/2008 4:24:11 PM PST by Loud Mime (Good is Evil and Evil is now good. The alarm has rung.)
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To: wagglebee

No one polled me.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 4:24:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: keeper53
Yeah, well a lot of Roman Catholics did vote for Obama, there’s no getting around that fact.

You mean CINO's?

7 posted on 11/17/2008 4:25:14 PM PST by Loud Mime (Good is Evil and Evil is now good. The alarm has rung.)
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To: wagglebee

Every Catholic I know voted for CastrObama. They claim to be pro-life but never vote that way. Plenty of Protestants are the same way.

Pray for W and Women Hurt by Abortion


8 posted on 11/17/2008 4:26:48 PM PST by bray (Rezko = Obama)
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9 posted on 11/17/2008 4:40:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"Yeah, well a lot of Roman Catholics did vote for Obama..."

No, a lot of self proclaimed Roman Catholics voted for Obama. This doesn't make them Roman Catholics anymore than me self proclaiming myself an NFL quarterback.

10 posted on 11/17/2008 4:42:27 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: wagglebee

I think she’s right. How can you vote for Obama and be against abortion at the same time? Unless of course you are a total hypocrite.


11 posted on 11/17/2008 4:44:00 PM PST by Funee Kat
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To: wagglebee

Sorry. I’m not going to defend Catholics on this one.

I don’t know the breakdown, but clearly catholics tend to favor Democrats and there is no question where the Democratic party stands on abortion.

Perhaps the majority are pro-life. But it evidently doesn’t rank as a primary concern for all of them.

Not saying they should have voted McCain. He’s an apolgetic pro-lifer IF he’s one but there is the option of neither.


12 posted on 11/17/2008 4:52:11 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Gov. Sarah Palin '08 -- President Sarah Palin '12)
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I agree, and I think that most Catholics on FR (myself included) are somewhat insulated from what the more secular Catholics believe.


13 posted on 11/17/2008 4:54:26 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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She obviously thinks the Catholic Church is a democracy, and ACORN can steal it by stuffing the ballot boxes.

The Catholic Church is composed of the people who follow Church Doctrine.

Those that don't are actually not part of the Church, even though the pretend that they are.

14 posted on 11/17/2008 4:56:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are the opium of the people.)
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I don’t know the breakdown, but clearly catholics tend to favor Democrats and there is no question where the Democratic party stands on abortion.

People who do not conform to Church Doctrine on such things as abortion are actually not Catholics, they just pretend they are Catholics.

15 posted on 11/17/2008 4:58:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are the opium of the people.)
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To: wagglebee
What I've heard from some Catholics who voted for Obama, they never even considered abortion. They were just mad about the economy, and blamed all of its woes on the Republicans. McCain, and the RNC didn't make the case that the roots of the problems in the financial system lay with decisions made largely by Democrats, starting with the Community Reinvestment Act, and made worse by the deregulation put in place by x42. These voters also mistakenly believed that President Bush had caused the problems by deregulating the financial industry. Bush never did any deregulating, so it was ignorance all around.

Some Catholic voters were also misled by Catholic Obama supporters into believing that he was 'pro-life'. Of course they lumped help for the poor, being anti-Iraq, and many other social justice issues. They apparently ignored the Bishops in this matter.

16 posted on 11/17/2008 6:19:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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CINO alert ping. Warning! I'm going to vent here........

I have seen poll after poll over the years showing a disturbing trend, especially among”Catholic” women.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DA163AF932A35757C0A966958260&scp=21&sq=Weakland+Milwaukee&st=nyt

In 1990, a much-talked-about poll was released showing 71% of self-described Catholic women supporting Abortion rights. I have recently seen polls showing large majorities even in current years of Catholic women supporting Abortion rights. Several polls quoted in FR by Catholic Freepers have shown that self-described Catholic women are typically Pro-Choice, and in very large numbers among the under-30 crowd. Among Catholic women who vote on the issue of Abortion primarily, Pro-Choice women led 2-1.

Do I even need to list the “Catholic” elected officials, especially “Catholic” women officials, and do the roll call? It's just abhorrently embarrassing. The ratio of Pro-Choice to Pro-Life is just absurd.

We all know that in general, men are slightly more Pro-Choice than women. So can somebody tell me why it is that the reverse is so decisively true in the Catholic Church?

Among the disturbing truths:

—Catholic women in the United States are as likely as women in the general population to have an abortion, and 29% more likely than Protestant women.

—There is more money spent to elect Pro-Choice Catholic women than Pro-Life Catholic women by nearly 30-1.

—Of all the major Christian religions, self-described Catholic women are the most likely to have MULTIPLE abortions.

Forgive my venting - but I get awfully tired of seeing this crap.

1.) If you're voting Pro-Choice, especially for the PURPOSE of advancing Abortion rights, you're in the wrong damn Church.

2.) If you're running for office as a Pro-Choice candidate, speaking before the pro-infanticide groups, you're in the wrong damn Church.

3.) If you're sending MONEY to groups the support Abortion, volunteering for such groups, spouting their talking points, legitimizing them, or any any way forwarding their pro-death agenda, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG DAMN CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Either get with the Church and the Scriptures, or STOP CALLING YOURSELF A CATHOLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not a birthright, you don't inherit CATHOLIC - you don't have Catholic DNA, you are not Catholic just because that's what your family told you you were as a child. It's a RELIGION - a FAITH - a PRACTICE. It is not a cafeteria with a menu of selections, it is not an inconvenience, it is not a DEMOCRACY up for popular VOTE for the laity to decide what's relevant and what's true in Church doctrine.

CALL YOURSELF SOMETHING ELSE IF YOU THINK THE CHURCH IS FULL OF CRAP ON ISSUES YOU CARE ABOUT!!! And forgive the smoke coming out of my ears.........

17 posted on 11/17/2008 6:27:02 PM PST by TitansAFC (Sarah Palin/Mitt Romney 2012!!! Elway, Schwarzenegger, Ditka, Huckabee, and Hoeven for Senate 2010!)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

18 posted on 11/17/2008 7:02:26 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: wagglebee

The American Catholic Church is hastening its own downfall by allowing priests to tell parishioners that they could still rationalize voting for Obama. My own priest did that. No candidate was named of course, but his intentions were very clear. My husband and I were livid.


19 posted on 11/17/2008 7:28:40 PM PST by sageb1 (Justice is for lawyers. Liberty is for We,The People.)
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To: Natural Law

I repeat myself, because I stand by what I wrote:

Yeah, well a lot of Roman Catholics did vote for Obama, there’s no getting around that fact.


20 posted on 11/17/2008 7:36:41 PM PST by keeper53
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