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I need some positive reasons why not to plan for a SHTF scenario.

Posted on 11/16/2008 3:15:11 PM PST by rfmad

I am seriously thinking of taking to steps to go to a survivalist approach planning to survuve total chaos and financial and institutional break down. Some one please help me see why this is not going to happen. Thanks


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To: Momaw Nadon

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201 posted on 11/16/2008 5:47:58 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: rfmad

Start by giving us reasons why you think it *will* happen.


202 posted on 11/16/2008 5:50:02 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: Jeff Head

I’ve been contemplating a small freezer for that reason. One that I can pack as full as possible out of my main freezer, cover it with blankets (except for the motor and coils), and put power to it for only two hours a day or so.

But I’m not sure what’s available, guess I should start checking.


203 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:28 PM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: Jeff Head
But, in order to keep your food frozen (unless it is winter in Idaho where ours can keep for several months in that time of year without) you need electricity for that food. That requires either solar, wind, or generator power. For the latter, you need fuel to keep it going as necessary.

Or a root cellar. We've turned half our basement into one. Anything that stays about 50 degrees will keep fresh food (potatoes, carrots, beets...etc.) for an extended period of time. You can even bury barrels full of food and then cover the area with a heavy layer mulch. That'll work, too, if you haven't the space.
For a national emergency, frozen food is a bad idea. You'll have to eat it fast or end up preserving it anyway.

204 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:32 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Miss Behave

Exactly. I was taken aback when he didn’t admonish me right away. I think he refrained from bringing it up so I didn’t freak out lol.
I did notice his behavior of late though. He did sell a few prized possessions, bought some ammo and another pistol and has been cleaning rifles.
Now after talking about and making some plans, I feel better.
Warrior Women indeed! ;)


205 posted on 11/16/2008 5:54:51 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: rfmad; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

Next Friday afternoon go out back, turn off your gas , electric and water. Don’t drive your car. Now just exist all weekend long as you make a list. Your needs may differ due location, weather, available resources etc ........

Think about all you do every day and what you can do without. Consider your security. Hygiene. Nourishment. Water. Heat or cooling. Sewage. Transportation. Funds. Supplies on hand. Laundry. Lighting. Medical needs and first aid supplies.

Think when you work as no 911 exists. You have to be a safety nazi because cutting wood with an ax is very unsafe if you do not do it all the time . Thus consider a sierra saw or bow saw versus an ax etc . Think like this for every task. Like help and aid may be a thousand miles away and any mistake you make could cost you your life from loss of blood or mere infection.

Just a start as your list will always be different that others needs.....but plan on 90 days minimum of supplies and gear. What ever you spend money on spend wisely as crap is crap and will not serve you well. Do you buy one 600 dollar cool SIG handgun or three 200 dollar Remington 870’s from wally world ?

Think YOUR situation through with emphasis on location, conditions, population, weather and threat from criminal element. As well is this disaster local and can you evacuate to friends or families homes far away or are you better off to sit tight ?

Questions only YOU can answer and solve !

Stay safe !


206 posted on 11/16/2008 5:55:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: rfmad

It is going to happen. I just can’t tell you when.

I do believe when things go south they will do so quickly.

When Obama’s thugs and goons get the green light to act, they will act quickly and violently.

On November 4, 2008 it went from will to when.


207 posted on 11/16/2008 5:56:09 PM PST by sport
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

There are a few left at a store he frequents. After making a few calls to his buddies and if they don’t have what we want, we’ll go there.


208 posted on 11/16/2008 5:57:17 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: concerned about politics

I am very impressed! I am good, but not that good yet.

Thank you for sharing and good luck out there...


209 posted on 11/16/2008 5:57:29 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (It's not Obama, it's O-bey-me !!!)
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To: concerned about politics
Exactly. Forzen food, in a prolonged emergency will cause you problems. But, to keep fresh food needing cool temps that you can maintain, is something different as you have aptly explained.

We have lots of dry stuffs, canned food, jerked and smoked meats, etc.

Water is paramount. Having that very heavy, double action ammish pump is a very nice thing for the wellhead.

210 posted on 11/16/2008 5:57:31 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Miss Behave
Wow, cap. You’re set...and you’re SMART. You give me inspiration and centering. You’re amazing! Thank you for sharing and inspiring.

Thanks. Any questions, feel free to ask. I'm sure we've been there and done that.

If you're rural, or maybe even suburban, a good reference book is "The Encyclopedia of Country Living."

The woman who wrote it lost her husband and was left with kids. She had nothing, and had to live on nothing. She learned how to live with no money and from total scratch. She even saved her chicken feathers (I don't remember how she got the chickens right now) to make quilts for her kids. That's how informative her book is.

211 posted on 11/16/2008 6:00:14 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
I just recently saw the movie “Cold Mountain” for the first time, (I know, I'm probably the last person on Earth to have seen it,) and the current “chill” in the air keeps calling to mind snippets and situations of that ugly and seemingly senseless time gone by...in thought that that “time gone by” may not have “gone by” for good. I know it was just a movie...but the portayal was real, and brutal, and mostly unforeseen. Nicole Kidman and Renee Zelwegger really rose to the ugly occasion. It's a reminder of self-sufficientcy and inner, unrealized, God-given strength.

Sorry to get off on that tangent.

212 posted on 11/16/2008 6:00:58 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I agree about the brownshirts, etc.!

Maybe you could provide some information about a financial issue I’ve been puzzling over. I put my retirement money into a Treasury money market account years ago when I started reading up on finance and came upon some very bearish writers who made a lot of sense. (Web sites for Comstock Partners, The Daily Reckoning, Financial Sense, etc.)

Now they are saying that Treasuries are a bad bet for the long term, given our huge overspending. However, not being an expert investor I’m not about to trade currencies or other such exotic things. Will T-bills be okay in a very inflationary environment, or are they “like running into a burning house,” as one writer described it. I suppose no one knows the future, though. At least short-term Treasuries would provide higher yields as interest rates climbed.

Please don’t feel obligated to respond if you don’t feel comfortable giving specific financial advice. I will just keep reading my web sites until I figure out what to do.


213 posted on 11/16/2008 6:02:02 PM PST by OneTimeComment (I)
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To: concerned about politics

Thank you, cap. I will definately be picking up that book.


214 posted on 11/16/2008 6:02:06 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Squantos
Outstanding advise Squantos...spot on.

Stay safe, amigo.

215 posted on 11/16/2008 6:02:52 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Miss Behave
sufficientcy=sufficiency. Ugh.
216 posted on 11/16/2008 6:03:37 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Ammo Republic 15

LOL! Maybe I should change my screen name.


217 posted on 11/16/2008 6:05:31 PM PST by OneTimeComment (I)
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To: Squantos
Thanks, Squant! And hi! Hope you've been very well.

Will you chop my wood for me? ;-)

218 posted on 11/16/2008 6:06:36 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Jeff Head
Water is paramount. Having that very heavy, double action ammish pump is a very nice thing for the wellhead.

Yep. Without electricity, a normal pump won't work. A lot of people forget about that part.

219 posted on 11/16/2008 6:06:44 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Jeff Head

That’s the way I teach it here in poohville.......:o)

With regards to all 4 seasons.....LOL !

Stay safe and Keep the Faith Jeff !


220 posted on 11/16/2008 6:07:56 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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