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Dems Want to Data Mine e-4473 Information
The Outdoors Wire ^ | 10/27/2008

Posted on 10/28/2008 9:08:23 AM PDT by gieriscm

The Outdoor Wire has confirmed from confidential sources that the "transition team" for the Democratic candidate has already begun looking into the current approval system for firearms transactions. It seems the digital recordkeeping approval recently granted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has piqued their curiosity. With a virtual Form 4473 in existence, we should be on the lookout for a new record-keeping initiative that will "simplify" the hassles of off-site digital record storage by allowing FFLs to, say, store the information on secure governmental servers. Of course, the government will never access the information.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antichrist; atf; banglist; barackobama; batfe; bootthebatfe; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; form4473; guncontrol; nobama08; obama; privacy; rkba; shallnotbeinfringed
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Needless to say we will stick to the paper forms.
1 posted on 10/28/2008 9:08:23 AM PDT by gieriscm
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To: bang_list; BCR #226

ping


2 posted on 10/28/2008 9:08:48 AM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: gieriscm

No E-4473 in my shop then...

Mike


3 posted on 10/28/2008 9:10:26 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepwer.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: gieriscm

Egad...people...vote.


4 posted on 10/28/2008 9:10:33 AM PDT by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: BCR #226
No E-4473 in my shop then...

Silly prole...you think this will be 'voluntary'. How quaint.

L

5 posted on 10/28/2008 9:12:39 AM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: gieriscm
A database of 4473...gun registration made simple. A gun grabber's wet dream. Just say NO.
6 posted on 10/28/2008 9:13:14 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: gieriscm
a new record-keeping initiative that will "simplify" the hassles of off-site digital record storage by allowing FFLs to, say, store the information on secure governmental servers.

Agreed. This will be done in the name of cost savings and convenience to everyone involved - and half of our people will be convinced that its no big deal. Watch.

7 posted on 10/28/2008 9:18:21 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: gieriscm
Wasn't there legislation passed to explicitly prevent the 4473's from being used as a "gun owner database"?

Of course, if the Constitution won't slow these idiots down, a little thing like a mere Law won't even be noticed...

8 posted on 10/28/2008 9:20:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
and half of our people will be convinced that its no big deal.

"What? They'll never want to take my O/U or my deer rifle."

"But no good sportsman needs a riot gun or a long-range sniper rifle!" /fudd

9 posted on 10/28/2008 9:22:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
...or my favorite from Joe Biden

"Relax, Obama isn't going to take away anyone's shotgun."

Reassuring, no?

10 posted on 10/28/2008 9:24:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Lurker

We manufacturers have some leverage. Never think that .Gov is all powerful. They gotta get their toys from somewhere...

Mike


11 posted on 10/28/2008 9:26:15 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepwer.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Myrddin

Anyone remember Red Dawn?

Colonel Bella sends a Soviet soldier to ‘obtain files number 4473... a list of private gun ownership.”

Would love to hear John Milius’ take on Obama.


12 posted on 10/28/2008 9:26:31 AM PDT by Cap74 (God is a Republican, Santa Claus is a Democrat -P.J. O'Rourke)
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I have a copy of Red Dawn. Assuming the gun owners in the U.S. have any kind of spine, they could mobilize far faster than we could be invaded by people using form 4473 information to ferret out the private gun owners.
13 posted on 10/28/2008 9:34:00 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

What I’m worried about is being made an instant criminal after some new ‘anti assault weapon’ ban is passed. Someone said once an ‘assault weapon’ is anything that looks scary to a Democrat.

I think my pistol-grip riot shotgun definitely fits that bill.


14 posted on 10/28/2008 9:39:53 AM PDT by Cap74 (God is a Republican, Santa Claus is a Democrat -P.J. O'Rourke)
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They gotta get their toys from somewhere...

You think that's a problem? How compliant will your employees be after they see you dragged off in handcuffs and charged with multiple felonies?

Then they'll ask politely "Does anyone else object or would you all like to get back to work NOW?"

L

15 posted on 10/28/2008 9:53:17 AM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: gieriscm

Here’s another gun related nugget of info:

Dan Cooper, Pres. of Cooper Firearms, is publicly backing Obama.

Full story at
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-27-prez-money_N.htm

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/


16 posted on 10/28/2008 10:12:36 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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They gotta get their toys from somewhere...

They get an awful lot of them from "gun friendly" Europe. FN's plant in NC is just a nicety...they'll be allowed to export for governmental contracts. They hold Winchester and USRA. Cerberus controls more US firearm interests than you can shake a stick at...that may be your only option...Remington, DPMS, Bushmaster. Have you noticed all of the buy-outs lately? CZ-USA bought Dan Wesson...it goes on.

17 posted on 10/28/2008 10:14:19 AM PDT by gundog (I'm a bitter gun owner, and I vote.)
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To: BCR #226

And as an aside, firearms manufacturers must be licensed. Licensed by whom? You got it.


18 posted on 10/28/2008 10:16:32 AM PDT by gundog (I'm a bitter gun owner, and I vote.)
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To: gieriscm

Ahhhhh, the benefits of private firearms transactions. No paper trails.


19 posted on 10/28/2008 10:32:29 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: gieriscm

Question: My cousin waited too long to get his permit. Now there is no time before the election for him to do NRA training and get a permit using that. Is it legal for him to buy a pistol from a gun show without a permit?


20 posted on 10/28/2008 11:01:10 AM PDT by montag813
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