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Dems Want to Data Mine e-4473 Information
The Outdoors Wire ^ | 10/27/2008

Posted on 10/28/2008 9:08:23 AM PDT by gieriscm

The Outdoor Wire has confirmed from confidential sources that the "transition team" for the Democratic candidate has already begun looking into the current approval system for firearms transactions. It seems the digital recordkeeping approval recently granted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has piqued their curiosity. With a virtual Form 4473 in existence, we should be on the lookout for a new record-keeping initiative that will "simplify" the hassles of off-site digital record storage by allowing FFLs to, say, store the information on secure governmental servers. Of course, the government will never access the information.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antichrist; atf; banglist; barackobama; batfe; bootthebatfe; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; form4473; guncontrol; nobama08; obama; privacy; rkba; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Lurker

LOL... Yeah, and they’ll face three people that have continually handed the ATF their butts in court in my case since..

1. I am not beholden to sell to any particular entity including the Government. Should the BATFE or any government body mess with us, I will close my doors and seal the R&D work so no one gets a hold of it. It will be their loss more than mine.

2. If they don’t like it, they will have to do without the firearms my company produces. They can go elsewhere.

3. I don’t have to sell to any individual. I’m a manufacturer and I’ll sell only to FFL’s if it comes to that.

Read my company policy on my website. We mean it. If a prohibited entity acquires one of our firearms and it is sent in for service, we will render the firearm non-functional according to BATFE regulations and return it in compliance with the law. WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT EXEMPTION IN FIREARMS LAWS.


41 posted on 10/28/2008 7:09:46 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepwer.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: gundog

That’s the nice thing about R&D work, especially the kind we do. They know that we are working on some very exciting stuff and if they mess with us, they don’t ever get to touch it.

Mike


42 posted on 10/28/2008 7:12:57 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepwer.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226
Read my company policy on my website.

I would if I knew where it was.

L

43 posted on 10/28/2008 7:16:55 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: BCR #226
Whoops. Found it. It's misspelled in your tagline.

You have my profound respect, sir.

If more firearm manufacturers had the same policy as you and Ronnie Barret, well things might be a whole lot better.

L

44 posted on 10/28/2008 7:21:28 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Poison Pill

The backtracking begins,

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

Still not good enough as far as I’m concerned.


45 posted on 10/28/2008 7:36:40 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Lurker

My bad... I’ll fix that.

Thanks bro, Ronnie is a great influence and really good people.

Mike


46 posted on 10/28/2008 8:49:42 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Myrddin

I’ll second that. No disrespect is meant to FR or any other site, but assuming things posted on the internet under a screen name will always remain confidential is not a good bet.

If Obama wins, the ‘security’ around him will be intense and invasive. Those posting things online out of frustration could run the risk of being accused of making threats. Think of what Clinton/Reno turned the FBI into. Post Patriot Act, with Obama and a possibly fillibuster-proof Dem Congress, I am a little nervous about how government power will be unleashed against ‘crazy gun-nut dangerous right wingers.’


47 posted on 10/28/2008 9:53:17 PM PDT by Cap74 (God is a Republican, Santa Claus is a Democrat -P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: gieriscm
Bookmark
48 posted on 10/29/2008 3:54:41 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem

Interesting thread. Thanks for the ping.


49 posted on 10/29/2008 7:37:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: BCR #226
They know that we are working on some very exciting stuff and if they mess with us, they don’t ever get to touch it.

You know your situation better than I do, but I say their not above thievery. And millions would cheer their action if they nationalized you. Keep it up, though...those are gorgeous weapons.

50 posted on 10/29/2008 8:56:55 AM PDT by gundog (Not guilty...by reason of inanity.)
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To: BCR #226
No E-4473 in my shop then...

Sounds like you should put a nice bulletin up prominently displaying that to your customers. Criminy, if you were in Dallas I'd be buying guns there.

51 posted on 10/29/2008 9:00:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: gieriscm

NICS is electronic and don’t think for a second that ALL state and federal agencies haven’t created databases to contain and search that data. Every firearm purchase goes through NICS. They already have this information and use it.


52 posted on 10/29/2008 9:03:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: gieriscm; RogerWilko; rivercat; Fred

ping


53 posted on 10/29/2008 9:13:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN signed up Snow White and the dwarfs - - the FBI's gonna take them far, far away...)
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To: ex-Texan

ping


54 posted on 10/29/2008 9:13:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN signed up Snow White and the dwarfs - - the FBI's gonna take them far, far away...)
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To: CodeToad

As an FFL I am well aware of what goes to NICS and what doesn’t. Right now the only information transmitted about the firearm is whether it is a handgun, long gun, or other (e.g. stripped receiver). Under the e-4473 more detailed information, such as the make, model, serial number, and caliber, would be available to the ATF.


55 posted on 10/29/2008 9:28:57 AM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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