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Rick Moran: THE GOP AND THE ‘DEAD PARROT’ SCENARIO
The Right Wing Nuthouse ^ | October 22, 2008 | Rick Moran

Posted on 10/23/2008 7:04:50 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

At the risk of being seen as “not helping” John McCain and “giving up,” allow me to take you on a little tour of the electoral battlefield today.

If there are any sharp objects within reach, I suggest you move them. Better yet, put them under lock and key. I am about to crack open the gates of hell and give you a peek at what’s inside.

As “The Dead March from Saul” plays on my headphones, I am forced to report that John McCain is approaching “Dead Parrot” status in the race for the presidency. The campaign is trying to convince us that John McCain is actually alive and still breathing while all other signs point to him being an ex-presidential candidate.

Don’t trust the polls? I wouldn’t either. In fact, a good case can be made that almost all the polls are undercounting Obama’s support and the Illinois senator is even further ahead than the polls indicate. (Read this piece by conservative political guru Michael Barone on polls.) This is because there seems to be a truly remarkable and historic dynamic at work in America. Early voting in states like NC, FL, and Ohio have shown extraordinary turnout among African Americans and the young, voting for Obama by huge margins (Pew has this early voting 58-34 for Obama while Zogby gives Obama a 21 point lead nationwide among early voters.)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: filibuster; husseinloses; landslide; landslidewinmccain; mccain; mccainpalin08; obama
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To: St. Louis Conservative

you mean that vast, vast history going all the way back to 9/30???


81 posted on 10/23/2008 7:58:44 PM PDT by cherry
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To: johncocktoasten

One correction John: Four out of five polls that I’ve been able to find racial breakdowns, Obama is actually trailing the John Kerry numbers of 04 among African-Americans, and BADLY trailing the Gore numbers of 2000. In only one poll of five has he matched-—but never exceeded-—the Gore numbers.


82 posted on 10/23/2008 7:59:13 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Moorka

You obviously missed McNutty’s recent opinion on the Big O. You know, Barry is a fine man and Americans have nothing to fear from him as president.


83 posted on 10/23/2008 7:59:37 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: St. Louis Conservative

And you probably believe that “dissent is patriotic”, eh?


84 posted on 10/23/2008 8:00:30 PM PDT by Left2Right ("It's going to be a long eight years...maybe not!")
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To: Mr. Know It All

I think she could survive a loss because I think McCain going down could hardly be blamed on her. Sarah Palin is really the only reason McCain has a fighting chance. The base loves her, and she’s genuine. The media despises her, but they didn’t create her, and they can’t destroy her.

I apologize if this article has been referenced already. I just read it tonight.


85 posted on 10/23/2008 8:00:54 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: GivemeaBREAK!
If Obama wins it will be because McCain hasn’t put into simple terms the dem’s role in the Financial meltdown, Obama’s “share the wealth” policies affect on this country’s economy and the need to drill for our own oil.

Very well said. He probably won't because, unfortunately, he really has no understanding of it. I am not happy about this.

86 posted on 10/23/2008 8:03:25 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

With apologies to Christo Buckley (mmno, not really):

Thank You For Choking.


87 posted on 10/23/2008 8:06:11 PM PDT by RichInOC (McCain/Palin '08: You Called Down The Thunder...Well, Now You Got A Cat 5 Hurricane.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
You posted a well known Freeper - Professional McCain hater irrational rant and tried to dressed it up as News !
Its a personal BLOG not news for one .
88 posted on 10/23/2008 8:07:54 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Moconservative

Have to give you that one too.


89 posted on 10/23/2008 8:08:07 PM PDT by AMNZ
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Warning this is yet another pessimistic take posted by the latest in a line of hundreds of other newbie trolls that have signed up on FR in the past three months thinking that they will depress the conservative vote.

Get lost TROLL!


90 posted on 10/23/2008 8:11:05 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Feeling bitter and clingy since 1963.)
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To: Williams
McCain Palin are fighting all the way and there is no reason to be negative about them

They are doing a marvelous job and hammering home the socialism theme. Things will be what they will be - no point getting to stressed already. Remember what W said when the first exit polls in '04 showed Kerry ahead - 'It is what it is.'
91 posted on 10/23/2008 8:14:02 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: johncocktoasten
Abstentees aren’t included in the EV total.

Seriously? Even if they end up changing the winner?
93 posted on 10/23/2008 8:16:15 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Haha. I laugh at that article. And I laugh at you for being ‘concerned’.


94 posted on 10/23/2008 8:17:11 PM PDT by rom (Keep Senator Government from Spreading YOUR Wealth! McCain/Palin '08!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
In the primaries, BHO did much better in the caucus states than in the states that held elections.

My understanding is that people who go to caucuses are political fanatics, precisely the kind of people you can mobilize to vote early.
95 posted on 10/23/2008 8:21:24 PM PDT by kenavi (BHO: The only constant is change.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
I think she could survive a loss because I think McCain going down could hardly be blamed on her. Sarah Palin is really the only reason McCain has a fighting chance.
Yes and no. Palin has rallied the base, but there is evidence that after the initial honeymoon, she alienated voting segments that McCain desperately needed to win. Of course, this is based on the hotly-disputed polls, but if McCain loses, expect them to be waved about by people looking to blame somebody.

Assuming that a defeated Palin would return to Alaksa for another term or two of Governorship, she could easily run for Senate. After that, the unpleasant memories of the 2008 campaign may have faded enough for her to be a real superstar candidate. I can't blame her for taking this fast-track opportunity, but it may make her too toxic for 2012. We'll see.

I apologize if this article has been referenced already. I just read it tonight.
I don't think this particular article had been posted, but the message of "polls bad, we're gonna lose bad," has been. I'm not accusing you of any malice or wrongdoing (remember, I'm a much worse "troll"); you just hit a rather raw nerve.

There's also a split about bad news. Too little, and people get complacent. Too much, and people get dispirited. My message is: don't worry about winning or losing, just vote and get others to vote. The only wasted vote is a vote not cast. If I was going to vote for the guy I think will win, I'd vote for Obama — but that's not why I vote. I vote to support policies I agree with, whether or not my party wins.

We won't know whether we win or lose until Nov 4th, though. Until then, we just need to worry about getting out the vote.

96 posted on 10/23/2008 8:23:04 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: PhiKapMom

Nobody is surprised :) He’s good for a laugh or two.
The good news is, if they really though Hussein was doing well they wouldn’t be here.

After this election we’ll have to call HazMat to spray the place down, liberalism has a stench that’s difficult to get rid of.


97 posted on 10/23/2008 8:25:03 PM PDT by scratcher (I trust the media about as much as I trust al Qaeda.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Here are the reasons McCain will win. (This is a very realistic post, so be warned.)

1. Obama is racially divisive, not a unifier. Sure America is ready for a black president, but not one so clueless he bumbles into one radical after another like some left-wing Zelig. (Or, more plausibly, is himself a radical, or at least has found it politically expedient to ally with them.) He's no President Palmer; not even his weird brother with the beard.

2. Biden is a likable buffoon, even if his botched cosmetic surgery makes him look like he just stepped off the Miss Saigon stage. If this campaign were a David Lynch movie, he would be played by Jack Nance (were he still alive), uttering portentous non-sequiturs like "there's a trout in the percolator," and "mark my words, The One will be tested -- by the gom jabbar." (Nance is so in Dune, but only in the alternate universe where Katie's Diner is still open).

3. Polls. Do you people have no memory? I treasure mine of Susan Estritch going from giddy to shell-shocked when the exit polls for cryin' out loud that said Kerry won turned out to be wrong. Exit. Polls. As in asking people who had just cast their votes who they had just voted for. Other people are going to have to explain why, but the last two presidential elections have seen the same: democrat candidates go into election night winners and come out the other end losers. Boo hoo, but that's the way it works.

4. The press coverage is a such a joke no one can fail to notice, although some might approve of it. But many Americans don't like to be told how to think, what to do. The Obamapheliac press orgy is turning the stomachs of some ordinary, non-political types, in my opinion.

5. Sarah Palin has awakened something liberals have forgotten about so long ago they don't even mock it. Chivalry. Real men are, frankly, angry about the attacks on the lady. Somebody's gonna pay. Also, there's an old political adage that you can't beat somebody with nobody. No disrespect intended, but Senator McCain, to many, was nobody compared to Obama. Sarah is the somebody the ticket needed, and the the one to carry the banner for the base.

6. PUMAs. You can't tell me they are not going to have an effect on a close election. And no, the "youth vote" (another canard from every single election) is not going to save Obama. As has been pointed out, if anything, most of them will wind up in McCain's column anyway. Nor is voter fraud going to do it. There is Democrat voter fraud in every election. It is built into the system. We still win.

7. A lot of us don't like McCain that much as a candidate, and he's not running the campaign we'd like to see. But I think he is doing well enough. He may be smarter than we give him credit for in taking things fairly easy. If he has reason to believe he is not as far down in the polls as the press would have it, the oft-repeated advice "he's got nothing to lose so he might as well let him have it with both barrels" could be wrong. In any event, this is who we have, and who we have to put in the white house.

8. Back to Obama. Aside from the menagerie of peculiar and dangerous associates, there is just something WEIRD about Obama. He really believes he's some sort of messiah, I think. The posturing, pronouncements ("A righteous wind at our back") etc. There is a disconnect between what he portrays and what he is that I don't think he notices himself. Like announcing he is "rushing" to be with this dying grandmother, then, days later, he's still dancing, campaigning, whatever he's doing other than rushing. In Magical Obamaland, saying it is the same as doing it. It's rushing you can believe in. Have to, actually, since it doesn't actually happen.

Every day that goes by, more people are seeing the reality -- flawed though it may be -- of the McCain-Palin ticket, and cannot but help compare the emptiness at the center of the Obama fad.
98 posted on 10/23/2008 8:26:12 PM PDT by SalukiLawyer
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Hussein has VERY large ears. That’s my take on it.

LESSONS FROM LIBERALS IN THE MISTY PAST

Mucho jobs lost. High unemployment rate. 21% interest rates. High gasoline prices and long gas lines - when you can even find gasoline. Military weakened and deteriorating because liberals loathe the military. Much disrespect shown along with contempt to the U.S., so much so that you want to twist Kadafi’s turban on crooked, but never mind, Ronald Reagan takes over and knocks Khadafi’s turban on crooked and he shuts his pie hole. The Ayatollah Khomeni releases the Iranian prisoners after Reagan is elected - and Jimmy Carter thought the Ayatollah was such a nice guy that he abandoned the Shah of Iran since he didn’t like the Shah . . . now we have Ahmadinajad (sp.), thank ya Jimmuh! Reagan lowers taxes and encourages the American spirit that had only just begun . . . . . zzzzzz..zzz . . . Oops. I just woke up to a Waking Bad Dream. . but, who knows . . I haven’t sung yet.


99 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:11 PM PDT by Twinkie (MODERN DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS . . .)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Look, at this point, no one know what will happen, but I will say that this is very reminiscent of 2004. I remember hearing that early voting was “in the bag” for Kerry and young folks were voting in droves for him.

I believe that African Americans will deliver another 2-3 million votes for Obama this time around (there can’t statistically be much more than that according to census data and past voting records), but the media ignores the “anti-Obama” voters. They include out and out racist democratic voters who oppose him because he is black, heartland conservatives who oppose him on his social views and fear his potential secular/muslim leanings and economic conservatives who oppose him on his fiscal policies.


100 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:24 PM PDT by wastedpotential (Proud to be in McCain country in the Buckeye State)
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