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The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for ("Who Cares?" Alert)
UK Guardian ^ | September 10, 2008 | Jonathan Freedland

Posted on 09/10/2008 6:12:34 AM PDT by seanrobins

The feeling is familiar. I had it four years ago and four years before that: a sinking feeling in the stomach. It's a kind of physical pessimism which says: "It's happening again. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win - and it could not matter more."

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Look at yesterday's opinion polls, which have John McCain either in a dead heat with Obama or narrowly ahead. Given the well-documented tendency of African-American candidates to perform better in polls than in elections - thanks to people who say they will vote for a black man but don't - this suggests Obama is now trailing badly. More troubling was the ABC News-Washington Post survey which found McCain ahead among white women by 53% to 41%. Two weeks ago, Obama had a 15% lead among women.

There is only one explanation for that turnaround, and it was not McCain's tranquilliser of a convention speech: Obama's lead has been crushed by the Palin bounce.

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Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it

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KEYWORDS: jonathanfreedland; mccain; nonamericancaucus; nonamericanvote; obama
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To: seanrobins

Dummies didn’t notice that the world has moved right? I think their actions speak louder than these false words.


61 posted on 09/10/2008 7:04:28 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: seanrobins
If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it

Dear Silly English Twit,

No, you will not hear it because you simply refuse to listen and just do not get it!

The reason we kicked your sorry butt out of our country is because you didn't get it then and now 232 years later, you still don't get it!

So once again let me explain it to you. We don't give a rat's butt what you British think! Your thinking stunk 232 years ago and has not improved one bit since then.

Now go away you silly English pig dog, or we shall taunt you some more!
62 posted on 09/10/2008 7:06:21 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (You can't fix stupid!... comedian Ron White)
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To: seanrobins

What true American cares what the European socialists or the other Commie dominated governments of Europe thinks about our country. They will be yelling for help if the Russians start infringing though. What a bunch of losers.

What true American really cares what they think. They have been trying to influence our elections since the end of WW2.


63 posted on 09/10/2008 7:07:52 AM PDT by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: seanrobins

DILLIGAF?


64 posted on 09/10/2008 7:08:26 AM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe.)
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To: seanrobins

I e-mailed the fool directly after reading this. Text of my e-mail:

Americans will vote in their own perceived interests, same as any other people privileged to have such a right. The views of the world do not concern us because, well, this is an internal affair, not the business of others.

Obama is a corrupt Chicago pol, a known racist, the most socialist member of the US Senate, and “the world” will think that he lost because of his skin color? Then ‘the world’ is an idiot.

Americans actually do not want to have to get the permission of, say, the French, or the Germans, or some Muslim dictator, to do what they have to do to protect themselves. Frankly, we no longer want to protect YOU. Pay for your own defenses, and you’ll have to give up you cradle-to-grave welfare states cocoons and grow up. That would be tough.


65 posted on 09/10/2008 7:15:38 AM PDT by chesley (I'm still alive, still employed, & still married. Life is GOOD)
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To: seanrobins
"The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for"

You mean we won't have to come rescue you the next time you get your ass in a jam?

66 posted on 09/10/2008 7:15:49 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: seanrobins
Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood: outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration.
Wow! Way to flaunt that ignorance of history...
And we'll be sure to let you know when we care.
67 posted on 09/10/2008 7:24:16 AM PDT by astyanax (If you need to wear a mask when speaking your mind, it is probably best you remain silent...)
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To: seanrobins

“a sinking feeling in the stomach. It’s a kind of physical pessimism which says: “It’s happening again. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win”

Subsitute ‘Germans’ for Democrats and ‘election’ for war and I get a picture of this boob for what he is.


68 posted on 09/10/2008 7:35:13 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("Every dog, we are told, has his day, unless there are more dogs than days." Bat Masterson)
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To: seanrobins
"Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it..."

James 4;4:
"You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God."

69 posted on 09/10/2008 7:37:05 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4
The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for ("Who Cares?" Alert)

Screw em.
70 posted on 09/10/2008 7:39:06 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: seanrobins
The feeling is familiar. I had it four years ago and four years before that: a sinking feeling in the stomach. It's a kind of physical pessimism which says: "It's happening again. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win - and it could not matter more."

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Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted?

This guy acknowledges in the first paragraph that Europe is populated with partisan hacks who will support anybody with a (D) next to his name, then bemoans that we arent on the edge of our seats to hear their reasoned opinions on who we should elect? Boo Hoo indeed.

71 posted on 09/10/2008 7:55:03 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Dinah Lord

This is a guy?

I thought it was one of those gals who "play for the other team".

72 posted on 09/10/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: seanrobins

Spoken by the same idiots who dumped Churchill so they could have socialism.


73 posted on 09/10/2008 7:58:07 AM PDT by Defiant (I prefer a Lewinsky in the White House to an Alinsky. The first blows, but the latter really sucks.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“. When has America ever cared what the rest of the world thinks”

Clinton. And he did a hideous amount of damage.


74 posted on 09/10/2008 7:58:42 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: Defiant

Yup, after using him for all he was worth.


75 posted on 09/10/2008 8:00:58 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: vimto
"what the rest of the world thinks"

Obviously in Barack Obama the leftists of the world see a kindred spirit. What is somewhat mystifying is the failure of these lefties (who think they know what makes America and Americans tick) to see what a failure many Americans see in the European government-is-all knowing states. Most conservatives, like myself, have no problem if Europeans want the cradle-to-grave welfare state that they seem to be so content with. What we mightily resent is these same leftists arrogantly butting into our internal affairs and demanding that we follow suit. Russell Brand's pro-Obama tirade at the MTV awards is another example. It definitely takes a lot of cheek.

P.S. I like my very liberal Brit in-laws. They're all very nice people (they send us cans (tins) of Vimto and other yummy Brit treats), but again they simply don't understand America or Americans. One of my in-laws gets all his "knowledge" about the U.S. from Michael Moore. I'll leave it at that.

76 posted on 09/10/2008 1:00:00 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: seanrobins
Steven Den Beste (former proprietor of the USS Clueless blog) weighs in on this piece:

Every four years we get this same lament: "The President of the United States is the most important political figure in the western world, one whose decisions affect all nations and not just the US. So those of us in other countries really, really wish we could vote in the US presidential election, and not just those stupid Americans who keep picking the wrong guy."

http://chizumatic.mee.nu/president_of_the_world

I can't quote the rest of his response in a family forum, but it well deserved.

77 posted on 09/10/2008 11:20:45 PM PDT by TChad
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To: seanrobins

You mean we won’t pass the, Global Test?

“When our country is in danger, it is not the job of the president to take an international poll; it’s to defend our country” George Walker Bush, President of the United States of America


78 posted on 09/10/2008 11:28:51 PM PDT by endthematrix
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To: driftless2
I think your observations are spot on. As for our ‘cradle to grave’ welfare state, it cannot last much longer, the demography shift is putting paid to that.

Europe's overweening pride comes from not having to defend ourselves and carping on about the way America does it for us. We sit in cafes and discuss diversity and multiculturalism and don't understand why everyone else in this world won't partake of our clearly superior culture.

I have little or no faith in Europe to negotiate the problems ahead. Bah!

I will forever remain a loyal Brit.

God bless.

79 posted on 09/11/2008 5:08:16 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: seanrobins
My email to the turd was as follows:

Dear Sir, Thank you for your thoughts that Americans should be concerned about the opinions of Europeans and, in particular, the British so far as our choices in governance. However, it would serve you well to study your history and discover that we resolved the matter of having to care about British opinion as concerns our choices of governance in 1783 when your nation legally acknowledged our right to do so. It would also serve you well to note that we affirmed that right in the period of 1812-1814 and would be perfectly happy to do so again if needs be. Sincerely - Peter Finn

80 posted on 09/16/2008 1:19:04 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("I will stand with the Muslims" - Baraq Hussein Obama p. 261 "Audacity of Hope")
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