Posted on 09/09/2008 5:56:38 PM PDT by tcg
The Episcopal Church in California is taking up arms against Proposition 8, an amendment that would change the California constitution to preserve the integrity of marriage as being between one man and one woman. In the process the U.S. branch of the Anglican Communion is clashing with a huge interfaith coalition, including Christians, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus and Sikhs, which is simultaneously launching a campaign to promote the proposition.
Voters will have an opportunity on the 2008 California General Election ballot in November to support Proposition 8, which will reinforce the wishes of 61% of California voters who supported true marriage in 2000. The California State Supreme Court overturned the popular vote earlier this year by legalizing same-sex "marriage," outraging Californians who complained that a handful of activist judges managed to hijack the democratic process.
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Anglican bishops don’t.
The Episcopalians are not long for this world.
No surprices here.
Advocate whatever you want, bishops. Can you afford the price?
The mainline denominations in California all support gay/lesbian marriages. This is nothing new.
Of course, neither is their steadily declining number.
oh, I thought this was about a real church. Episcopal Church is to a church as Barney Franks is to a Navy SEAL....
It's not like the Episcopalians believe in anything as stupid as the bible. Heck, it is all about how you "feel", that if it "feels" good, then God had to be cool with whatever you choose to do.
I'm sure they're not to worried about what Christians think. Since they probably don't know any.
The US Episcopal Church and Anglican Communion still define marriage as being between one man and one woman.
All of these Bishops and priests supporting gay marriage are acting contrary to existing church canons.
But don’t expect any disciplinary action. Instead they will be cheered by the House of Bishops and other church leaders. Sad, but true!
Not all are on board. The San Joaquin Diocese just left the California church over similar shenanigans.
Church Unity is all very well and good, and there needs to be more of it, but come on...there has to come a point when opinions are so divergent as to make the cost of union too high. You cannot ask folk to compromise what they believe in for some nebulous thing like “unity of the church”.
I think that the AOC needs to set out a minimum requirement to be part of the Anglican communion, and if there are individual congregations or clergy out there who cannot live with that, then they must reconsider their positions and membership in the communion.
The article at this thread is very important and I recommend it highly.
I said nothing about unity, but rather that the CA bishops are acting contrary to the “official” church position.
What do you expect when they elect a witch as their supreme leader?
Could this be why they don’t have many people to speak to on Sunday mornings?
They should “expel” or at least suspend the episcopal church.
my wife and I don’t go to the episcopal church because when my wife and I asked around for signatures to get the marriage question on the ballot, some of the people said they don’t care.
The there was the homo vicar up in NH making a mockery of the church
the church has lost it’s way and either needs to rid these vicars or separate
my wife and I left that church in our state due to it becoming more liberal.
the catholic church needs also to stand up too
since we have stayed at home as we are not sure where to go
I know, but the point is that they are not being pulled up for acting contrary to the “official” position, and the main reason for that is the desire by the church authority not to “split” the communion, in other words, to be united.
The Anglican communion has always been a very “broad” church, and that’s fine - there is room for a variety of interpretations - but at the same time there has to be some minimum standard of belief.
I am of the opinion that in their heart of hearts, many in church leadership would favor a split, but are wary of an uprising from the pews. Those,such as the CA bishops (and their idol from NH)are on record as stating or suggesting that the US church doesn’t need the Anglican Communion.
If it is going to happen, then for sure it needs to be done quickly and cleanly, otherwise there will be rancor for years - even decades.
Basically, “you believe this, and we believe that, why are we pretending these viewpoints are compatible? You go your way, and we’ll go ours, and we’ll all meet up in eternity one day and compare notes!”
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