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Conservatives Refusing to Support McCain: Here´s What You´ll Get
The American Chronicle ^ | August 26, 2008 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There has been plenty of whining from conservatives concerning whether John McCain would select a pro-choice vice president. I just hope whining is all it is. As my colleague Dan Calabrese pointed out on August 21, the political leanings of the VP concerning abortion are largely irrelevant. The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate.

But this conservative whining must be starting to concern McCain and his political strategists at least a little. Maybe these people who keep complaining that McCain isn´t conservative enough are actually considering the possibility of not voting.

On one hand, Barack Obama simply isn´t popular enough to be truly threatening. He´s inexperienced, doesn´t understand the issues very well, doesn´t exude patriotism and has some horrendous relationship baggage. When you tally it up, it amounts to a major risk. And as past elections have shown, it´s been risks like these that have ultimately pushed people past the summer excitement and back into the autumn safety of conservative candidates who, if nothing else, seem more or less transparent.

But on the other hand, the support of the conservative base is an important element of this seasonal routine. So even if the swing voters play their role perfectly, as I suspect they will, it probably won´t be enough if a significant portion of the conservative base doesn´t vote.

So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

Realize that the average age on the U.S. Supreme Court is currently 68. John Paul Stevens is 88 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75. Obama would select at least one, probably two new justices.

Bills that put crushing new requirements and taxes on businesses would almost certainly pass a Democratic Congress, and be signed by a president who has never run a lemonade stand in his life, much less a business. Don´t expect him to start vetoing bills just because they would drive our country´s deficit beyond anything prior.

Realize that Obama would not be aggressive on terrorism, that Islamofascists are probably licking their lips at the prospect of a passive American president who would be content to play defense, and would even take seriously the lip-service of radicals like the Iranian president. With an appeaser as our commander in chief, terrorist networks would inevitably regain strength, and more innocent people will die. Call it a scare tactic or anything you like. It´s completely logical.

Realize that 3 percent of Americans pay about half of America´s taxes. If we elect Obama, those numbers will be even more lopsided. Obama has pledged to increase taxes on the wealthy, who would, in turn, hide their money. That´s a brilliant plan if your goal is to completely stifle an economy.

Realize that Obama probably won´t allow America to drill for its own oil. Have you enjoyed watching our Congress take a vacation when we need them the most? With Obama at the helm, there will be even less pressure on them to do their jobs and get Americans the oil they desperately need. Expect more of the same naïve lip service that describes local oil-drilling as the problem, and not as the obvious solution it is.

Realize that when Obama talks about creating jobs, he means he will be building even more government agencies. He is not talking about letting the economy naturally flourish and creating jobs by getting the government out of the way. If you are ready for an even bigger government than our current one, Obama is your man.

Of course, Obama would not be without an upside. The evening news would be much more upbeat when the media´s biggest crush becomes the most powerful man in the world for four years. There would be no more of the incessantly grim ramblings to which we´ve become so accustomed.

Finally, realize that Obama has good intentions. I respect that he is an idealist, even if I disagree with his ideals. And if we do elect him, I don´t think America will crumble. I just think he would leave it in even worse condition than the one in which he found it.

So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; boneheads; compromise; conservativevote; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainbot; obama; obamatruthfile; rationalizing
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To: sport
If Obama wins there won’t be a 2012.

Puuuuuleaze!

You need to go back to propaganda school bucko!

propaganda has to be at least a little believable to be accepted.

You think Obama's gonna nuke this country out of existence do ya?

Sheesh

This country was here before Bill and Hillary an it was here after Bill and Hillary. It was here before Barak obama and it'll be here after Barak Obama.

121 posted on 08/26/2008 9:27:25 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: NavyCanDo
Us Freadheads, Romneyites, Giulianianians, Hunters, Tancredoans,

Ummm. Why are you including Romney and Guiliani in with conservatives?

122 posted on 08/26/2008 9:29:08 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: cybervyk

I posted the thread, I didn’t write the article. In post #1 I told you what my position was, as far as voting goes this election cycle. I bundled over $40,000 for former Senator Fred Thompson, because he was a common sense, stalwart conservative. I never campaigned for Senator John McCain, but I will vote for him to stop Senator Obama’s rise to power. Everyone here will do what they feel is right, and hopefully the nation will endure.


123 posted on 08/26/2008 9:31:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; frankiep; indylindy; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...

Well, there’s always this...

http://www.zazzle.com/mccain_i_guess_bumper_sticker_bumpersticker-128642794022161738

It pretty much sums up the way most McCain supporters feel.


124 posted on 08/26/2008 9:36:30 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I bundled over $40,000 for former Senator Fred Thompson,”

You did what? I think you better have a review of campaign finance laws and how much a individual may give a candidate.

http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_general.shtml


125 posted on 08/26/2008 9:40:14 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You never seem to tire of shilling votes for the liberal, leftist GOP.


126 posted on 08/26/2008 9:41:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Mr. Mojo

He doesn’t have the pull or the savvy to be as dangerous as the Clintons. His few deeply held personal opinions are repugnant to mainstream Americans, so he’ll either have to keep hiding them or face massive opposition at every turn.
I’m not saying it wouldn’t be unpleasant, but think of what John Mccain will able to get away with simply because he’s a Republican.


127 posted on 08/26/2008 9:42:09 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's a stretch.

But fine.

What this (all these articles showing concern) does is show that there is growing tension and anxiety in the liberal/McCain camp about a SIGNIFICANT number of Conservatives who will go third party or leave the President slot blank.

As it should be.

"Want the Presidency, Mr. McCain? Then, here are your orders from The Base. Follow them. Got it?"

The Japanese would call this 外圧 (gaiatsu), or immense external pressure on something that refuses to change.

Like it or not, those Conservative supporting McCain owe a BIG favor to those Conservatives not supporting McCain because without us, there is no pressure on him or the RINOs to tow the conservative line. We are needed, there can be no doubt about it. Conservatives putting pressure on McCain and scaring the crap out of his campaign aides will be the best thing possible for the Conservatives who are staying with McCain and the GOP for President this year.

128 posted on 08/26/2008 9:44:42 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (True Measure of A Conservative: At the End of the Day, Were You Co-opted & Neutralized by the RINOs?)
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To: Man50D

That’s gonna leave a GASH!


129 posted on 08/26/2008 9:50:42 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO's HI vacation was a birth certificate repair mission.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After the Saddleback debate, I will be happy to vote for Maverick. He is pro-choice, pro-war, pro-drilling and for cutting spending. All these things are anti with Black Racist Oblack.

Pray for W and Our Troops


130 posted on 08/26/2008 9:52:31 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"There has been plenty of whining from conservatives concerning whether John McCain would select a pro-choice vice president. "


131 posted on 08/26/2008 9:55:24 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: NavyCanDo

Bundling is getting others to contribute. An individual may contribute up to $2,300. I asked others, and they did so. I DID NOT go over my individual limit, so I am fine.


132 posted on 08/26/2008 9:59:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: VRWC For Truth
"Most likely to be VP. "

God help us!

133 posted on 08/26/2008 10:08:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO's HI vacation was a birth certificate repair mission.)
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To: politicket
Would you care to explain scripturally where I am off base

No. The bible doesn't speak of embryonic stem cells research. Christians will have to ask God his will. There are 1.2 million abortions in the US annually. Research doesn't kill. Government funded research cultivates 60 already existing cell lines developed by private research. Private research is already largely unregulated in the US and it is going on world wide. It cultivates fertilized eggs that are never going to be used and the already aborted. Researchers might logically be called grave robbers but they are not the murderers, the abortionists are.

The history of modern medicine was written on the stolen bodies of murder victims. The Bible also doesn't speak of autopsies When I ask the Lord to guide me on the issue of autopsies He is all for cutting up the dead to catch the guilty. The dead bodies are worthless without their souls. On embryonic stem cells He is silent. On abortion He is loud and clear. On Osama vs McCain He is loud and clear.

There are degrees of good and evil. I have search my soul and God tells me McCain is a good man, a smart man, a brutally honest man, who loves his country. McCain has accepted Christ and Christ has comforted McCain during 5 years of torture. God tells me Obama joined Trinity because it was politically expediant. Osama changes religions, addresses, names, and proclaimed ideology like a chameleon when it suits his environment. Next year either Osama or McCain will be President.

134 posted on 08/26/2008 10:09:01 PM PDT by Once-Ler (If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I understand that sentiment. But I’m in California where McCain doesn’t have a chance anyway. With the introduction of his whacko leftist policies into the GOP platform, I’m having a hard time finding a reason to cast my vote for the pubbies and endorse that behavior. I’ll wait and see who he selects for veep, but as of now, I’m leaning 3rd party.


135 posted on 08/26/2008 10:09:56 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, my error.


136 posted on 08/26/2008 10:14:54 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the political leanings of the VP concerning abortion are largely irrelevant. The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate.

Upon the rocks of such stupid lies the GOP dies.

137 posted on 08/26/2008 10:16:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (So, how does the new Whig fit??)
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To: Once-Ler
It cultivates fertilized eggs that are never going to be used and the already aborted.

I noticed that you didn't reference scripture once in your rebuttal, like I had requested.

A fertilized human egg is a person - de facto. This fertilized human egg is keep in a frozen state until ready for use (whether it be implantation into the womb of a woman, or thawed to use in medical research). If it is thawed for medical research then the fertilized egg will at that time die - biblical murder has taken place.

Freezing fertilized eggs for purposes other than eventual transfer into a woman's womb is biblically unethical.

My initial claim - supported by God's word - stands. Embryonic stem cell research is the shedding of innocent blood and is murder. John McCain supports that and will not receive votes from my family because of it.
138 posted on 08/26/2008 10:21:12 PM PDT by politicket (If it defaults, call it something else and sell more of it.)
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To: politicket

“keep” s/b “kept”


139 posted on 08/26/2008 10:23:59 PM PDT by politicket (If it defaults, call it something else and sell more of it.)
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To: NavyCanDo
"McCain’s 22 years in the Navy and 26 years in the Senate is vastly more important than Obama’s 160 days in the Senate and 0 time in the military. "

Absolutely right! I commend you and MANY others on this thread as being some of the best I have ever seen. I come away with the feeling that many DO get it, but sadly, too many don't. ( and they walk among us! ).

140 posted on 08/26/2008 10:25:05 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO's HI vacation was a birth certificate repair mission.)
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