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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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WHAT A MORONIC LOSER!!!
681 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:38 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: kcvl

Obama=>I want people to know me well

and he missed that opportunity by not going on town hall meetings with McCain


682 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:38 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: newnhdad

if we pretend everything is free and are not willing to make sacrifices......


683 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:40 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Fudd Fan

“You’re reading my mind, my FRiend! I was just thinking, “do either of these jerks own ties?”
We’re a long way from the Reagan years...


684 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:02 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (Where's Michele??)
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Q: Why do you wanna be president?

A: "...I have the ability to build bridges..."

Pabulum.
This self-righteous, vapid, preachy tripe is starting to grind on me.

685 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:04 PM PDT by XR7
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To: They'reGone2000

No repicusions...

No drilling ???

Oh oh

Higher prices...


686 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TornadoAlley3

Standing O for the big turd.


687 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:11 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: mewzilla

I am kind of warming up to McCain....I’ll hold my nose and vote for him.


688 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:12 PM PDT by Dog (We have entered into the realm of 9/10 all over again...Lord help us.)
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To: They'reGone2000

He wastes his last moment with the audience by basically telling us that he will be raising our taxes.


689 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:18 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: mewzilla

The crucifixion is ready to start. Ol’ Rick is a slick little devil!


690 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: library user

That is due to poor lighting. People of color have that problem all the time on camera... seriously it is the lighting.


691 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:24 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: mombonn
Wow talk about a Globalist viewpoint. How much all this saving the world gonna cost us?
692 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:29 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Mac and O hug..... awwww


693 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:46 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3
if we pretend everything is free and are not willing to make sacrifices......

He's talking about abortion.

694 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:47 PM PDT by Tramonto (Regime change in Russia)
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To: library user

Obama didn’t mention his Kenyan goatherder fathers parents..


695 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:53 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: snippy_about_it

Yes it is easy Obambi.

Drill!


696 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:54 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Warren makes 4 of O


697 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: kcvl
The Authorized King James Bible is the only true Word of God in the English language, period.

First published in 1611.

How utterly preposterous!

698 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:06 PM PDT by houeto ("Drill Here! Drill Now!")
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To: AliVeritas

Pretend everything is freeeeeeeeeeeeee?

all he wants is money!

everything to him is about the people giving gov’t money!!!

then Ricky has to ask everyone to STAND so that Obama got his standing “O”

BITE ME! RICK!

Stop sucking.....biting tongue


699 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:10 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: SE Mom

What happened with cajungirl?


700 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:10 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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