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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: AmericanMade1776

Obama uh uh lead by example uh uh uh rule of law uh uh uh


641 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:23 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

economy

trade with China ????

you traitor...


642 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: They'reGone2000
Hello,

This is a treasure of future ads...where to start?

What a total putz the O is...

MOgirl

643 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:33 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

torture..moral standing


644 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:33 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Barney the Dinosaur might as well be moderating this fluff.

Barney would be more believable.

645 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:38 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: jwalsh07
His supporters right now ... man is this junkque going to be fodder for at least a month! Shut up already!


646 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (Public Notice: The answer & trick that everyone is looking for is all the same answer & trick.)
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To: jwalsh07
Warren has no claims to being a hard hitting journalist

Understood. That's what makes this an exercise in futility.

647 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:52 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (i hate this election.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hi, Nana.

Do you know anyone who is being tortured?


648 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:53 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Do we get to drink each time we hear “my friend”? :)


649 posted on 08/16/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Well, if you start with parental responsibility and stop taxpayer funding of abortion, it’s a start. When a woman does have a child, why should the dad stick around, he let’s the state raise the kid... it’s the culture, thanks to abortion and the contraceptive mentality.

Warren, I dare him ask about Christian murders in Kenya by Odinga’s MOU partners the muslims. Christians are getting killed hand over fist.


650 posted on 08/16/2008 5:53:02 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: GOPGuide

God help us!


651 posted on 08/16/2008 5:53:12 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: All
Come on Freepers you all are political savy....watch his answers like a sheeple.

Imagine Joe six pack watching this and getting lost in all Barry's UH's and UMmmm's.

The DEMS HAVE A PROBLEM.

652 posted on 08/16/2008 5:53:29 PM PDT by Dog (We have entered into the realm of 9/10 all over again...Lord help us.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

how do you end slavery Obama . yeah Obama uh uh ..better tools to prosecute .. yeah that is it .. Like former Gov. Spitz..uh uh uh


653 posted on 08/16/2008 5:53:29 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: They'reGone2000

LOL. First, let’s all bow our heads and have a walk off grand slam at the end of the segment.


654 posted on 08/16/2008 5:53:48 PM PDT by cpanter (Steyn is my Obamamania!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Hmmm... get the feeling O meant religious freedom mainly for one certain group?


655 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: All

OBAMA JUST SAID CLARENCE THOMAS DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO SERVE ON THE COURT: Kinda ironic, huh? (Scalia’s qualified, but Obama wouldn’t have nominated him). Just turned off the TiVo and his appearance with Rick Warren was on.

UPDATE: Ouch: “Rick Warren seems more interested in being pals with whomever winds up president than getting real answers.” Will that hold true for his McCain interview, too? Probably.

http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/022986.php


656 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:11 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Shortstop7

How do you get from religious tolerance to engaging in torture in the US without meaning Gitmo ????


657 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dog

I was talking a while back uh uh uh uh ..


658 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:18 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: They'reGone2000

Do we get to drink each time we hear “my friend”? :)

LOL OK, but we’ll all be drunk within the first 15 minutes.


659 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:27 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: They'reGone2000

No, please.. I only have three bottles of vodka.


660 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:27 PM PDT by newnhdad
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