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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: tiredoflaundry

Why do you want to be president?

to stop America from being mean


661 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:38 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: GOPGuide

But the rest of the world has free health care. Doesn’t he know his own talking points?


662 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:40 PM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: Bodhi1

Well, I guess it’s not just BUSH anymore...it’s all of us!


663 posted on 08/16/2008 5:54:51 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Obama looks like a Mortician.


664 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:09 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AliVeritas

Hah!

I love you, AV!


665 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:19 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: AliVeritas

Refresh

EX:
Obama Pays Parking Tickets 17 Years Late

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/08/AR2007030800553.html

The Associated Press
Thursday, March 8, 2007; 9:27 PM

BOSTON — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama got more than an education
when he attended Harvard Law School in the late 1980s.
He also got a healthy stack of parking tickets, most of which he never paid.

The Illinois Senator shelled out $375 in January _
two weeks before he officially launched his presidential campaign _
to finally pay for 15 outstanding parking tickets and their associated late fees.

The story was first reported Wednesday by The Somerville News.

Obama received 17 parking tickets in Cambridge between 1988 and 1991,
mostly for parking in a bus stop,
parking without a resident permit and
failing to pay the meter, records from the Cambridge Traffic,
Parking and Transportation office show.


666 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:27 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: AliVeritas

What did Mommy say about you when you were mean to millions of unborn ???????????


667 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AmericanMade1776

Who believes a word he says...empathy is why he wants to be president?? Good grief.


668 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:32 PM PDT by jackv
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To: FlashBack
Worst answer for why he wants to be president I've EVER heard!

In a nutshell, he has no idea.

669 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:45 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

/dies laughing

I keep thinking his lips look purple, he would fit in so well!


670 posted on 08/16/2008 5:55:53 PM PDT by Toki
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To: jackv

He managed to say ummm so many time they couldn’t make through all the questions. We’ll have to see if McCain gets all 15 or not.


671 posted on 08/16/2008 5:56:30 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: mombonn

I want people to know me well....but question was above my pay grade.


672 posted on 08/16/2008 5:56:41 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: HonestConservative

Yes

I am watching this

Howya doin HC ?????


673 posted on 08/16/2008 5:56:52 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: jackv

Bambi: “These are the kinds of forums we need; where we can have a conversation”.

Hopefully with a sympathetic questioner and advance notice of the questions.


674 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:05 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: SoCalPol

oh— I seeeeeeeee


675 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:09 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: mombonn

his answer should be.. “oprah said so”


676 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:09 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: Dog
The DEMS HAVE A PROBLEM.

That's the good news.

The bad news is the 'Rats aren't the only ones :(

677 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: XR7

Obama’s skin is all orange. He looks like an Umpa lumpa.


678 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:13 PM PDT by library user
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To: jwalsh07

Here we go...

Oh... bless mom’s soul.

Put himself in their shoes.

Imagine standing in the shoes of those kicked out of crap buildings to make your and your slimebag friends pockets fatter... some in the winter.

I don’t see why media doesn’t go to his former district and see... as well as video. Are there more jobs, housing, gangs, crime, graduations, taxes...


679 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:18 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Vicki
it is next to impossible to fire a teacher

Have you seen the makeup of the teacher's union? I get a glimpse of them whenever they decide to show up at their office (it's down the hall from mine). At least, half of them speak 'Ebonics' or some language I have never heard!

And, what little I have heard they aren't interested in anything but raising money to campaign. I have yet to hear anything about TEACHING.

680 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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