Posted on 07/31/2008 6:20:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
A slab of North Texas limestone is on track to rock the world, with its two imbedded footprints poised to make a huge impression in scientific and religious circles.
The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 from the bank of a creek that feeds the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas, located about 53 miles south of Fort Worth. The find was made just outside Dinosaur Valley State Park, a popular destination for tourists known for its well-preserved dinosaur tracks and other fossils.
The limestone contains two distinct prints – one of a human footprint and one belonging to a dinosaur. The significance of the cement-hard fossil is that it shows the dinosaur print partially over and intersecting the human print.
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.
Finding scholars and experts on evolution, paleontology or creationism to speak about the discovery proved difficult. Some who were contacted said they didn’t want to comment on the prints without a personal inspection or without review of data from scientific tests.
However, Dr. Phillip Murry, a vertebrate paleontology instructor in the Geoscience department of Tarleton State University at Stephenville, Texas, stated in his response to an interview request: “There has never been a proven association of dinosaur (prints) with human footprints.”
The longtime amateur archeologist who found the fossil thinks that statement is now proven untrue.
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First of all, I didn't make the statement, Dog Gone did. And second, the claim of this fossil is that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time. So it is a reasonable request to show where human fossils and dinosaur fossils have been found in the same strata - and they don't even have to be in the same vicinity - say, dinosaur fossils in a Late Cretaceous formation in Montana and human fossils in a Late Cretaceous formation in Asia.
the human footprint is of the “piltdown” species i assume?
It's impossible to convince someone who has decided, as a matter of faith, to believe a certain conclusion.
Until you can demonstrate that radiometric dating of sedimentary deposits is inaccurate, then you should accept it. If there has never been a single confirmed case of dinosaurs co-existing with modern animals, much less humans, and buried in the same age rock, then a reasonable conclusion would be that they didn't exist at the same time.
The fact is that no hominid fossils have ever been found in the layers containing the dinosaurs, or in older rocks either. And you don't find dinosaurs in the rock layers of the Devonian Age, either. They hadn't appeared yet.
And why don't you find the older fossils, like the trilobite in younger rocks?
The fossil record is clear and unchallenged, except by hoaxsters.
Is there someone stopping you?
Of course, this is what the footprint of an Acrocanthosaurus looks like:
Doesn't look too much like a kid's Godzilla plastic toy footprint, does it?
I see that you are a “believer”.
Why don’t these sites put their ‘evidence’ up for critical scientific review?
“Believe what? man has caused global warming or man walked with dinosaurs?”
Take your pick. I just wanted to know if you were a believer?
"He has led three scientific expeditions into the rain forests of Papua New Guinea in search of living pterodactyls."
Now that you mention it, that sure does look like a bogus dinosaur print.
“Doctor of Theology”
He is obviously a “believer” and thus will not accept any evidence to the contrary.
“He is the founding Director the Creation Evidence Museum “
Uh huh.
Cripes, you can see the line of drill holes made to form the middle “finger” of the dinosaur.
And even the human footprint is incredibly bogus. How much longer is your “index” toe than your big toe?
No human on earth EVER could have made that footprint.
Have you ever heard creationists attack their own falsified fossils? Or do you just hear about Piltdown Man from them?
This is not just a fraud, it’s a lousy fraud. Yet there are many who will defend it.
This fossil was “designed” but not “intelligently”.
DINOSAUR FOOTPRINT TRAILN' TRACKS
Leave them wondering who, or WHAT wandered by with our Dinosaur Trailn' Tracks!
A giant set of footprints designed to "leave their mark" wherever you go! Perfect for a day at the beach or freaking out your friends in the mud (Camping has never been this much fun!)
One size fits most. Best part... you can wear them over sneakers.
...the claim of this fossil is that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time. So it is a reasonable request to show where human fossils and dinosaur fossils have been found in the same strata
I do not deny that it is a reasonable request, except to note that such a fossil would have to come from a minuscule sliver of a percentage of the huge number and kinds of fossil species. If vertebrates comprise only .0125% of all fossils, and most most of those are fish, the percentage of land dwelling primates in comparison to the total is extremely minute.
If regarding the presumed absence of such a fossil in 00.01% of the fossil record as positive evidence for Darwinian evolution is not unreasonable, then neither is it unreasonable to regard the absence of any specimens from what are purported to have been major events in the history of the earth, transitionals leading up to the complex invertebrates, and between invertebrates and vertebrates in the other 99.99% of the available fossil evidence (most of which is of much higher quality than that in the 00.01%) as evidence against the theory.
Surely out of that huge number of fossils in the 99.99%there must be some shred of evidence of transitional fossils leading up to the complex invertebrates, and between invertebrates and vertebrates?
Cordially,
I wasn't aware that sedimentary rock is subject to radiometric dating methods. Can you give me an example of that process?
Cordially,
I can’t believe it. A thread with the word “dinosaur” in the title, 137 posts, and not one picture of Helen Thomas posted?
“I bet toes spread out when you are running through the mud with a dinosaur on your ass.”Well, I don't have any experience with being chased by a dinosaur...
Reverse challenge -
prove that fossil creature X begat fossil creature Y.
Just because they are similar, or look like they’re “between” species A and B, is NOT proof that one evolved into another.
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