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Defining Moment In US
ThreatsWatch.org | 7/26/08 | Steve Shippert

Posted on 07/27/2008 7:41:42 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET

Steve Shippert, of ThreatsWatch.org just sent this email out on a small email ring of bloggers. It is simply and truly incredibly important, and eloquent. I beseech every blogger to post it on their blog. If all do, it will redound widely, and be widely heard, as it must be, if we care for our nation, our children's future, everything we value in life and liberty. This must get out. It can really shape the debate in this country, and sway many. In every election, there is a moment when it happens, and Shippert's message is that moment. PLEASE, everybody post this message in their blog, without delay. Our combined voice will echo and reverberate and have major effect, if done all together and all at once. Thank you, Bruce Kesler

The message was, ''You had these opportunities, America. You didn't do anything,'' FBI agent George Crouch Jr. testified Friday at Salim Hamdan's war crimes trial.

The United States could have killed bin Laden in Khartoum, Sudan, before he moved to Afghanistan in 1996, Hamdan told his interrogators. They could have killed him after al Qaida's 1998 twin bombings at the U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Or after the October 2000 suicide bombing of the USS Cole, at the port of Aden in Yemen, which left 17 U.S. sailors dead.

Instead, ''Bin Laden was emboldened.'' So he struck with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, leaving nearly 3,000 dead.

It is bitter irony that lawyers are conveying such through a trial. Remote controlled Tomahawks, the illusion of safety beyond the sanctuary of oceans, and the hot pursuit via attorneys and law both remote and unrecognized by murderous men who seek our death. This was how we convinced ourselves of our certain and active defense.

We were offered bin Laden in transit from Sudan to Afghanistan. But we did not want him. Our lawyers had no battle, our leaders no mettle.

Most of us, though not all, have learned nothing. After thousands smote and seven years of war, we are back to our superior ways, demanding Habeas Corpus and noting in the very first trial that bin Laden's deputy was read no Miranda rights upon his capture - or was it arrest?

They say History repeats itself. Never before has it applied so swiftly, within the same generation and within the same conflict.

A selfish society incapable of sacrifice is equally incapable of self-defense. Our greatest concern is not the pursuit of madmen or the states which feed them. It is not even the cost of oil and its affect on our economy and future. It is the cost of the gasoline that cycles through our tanks and its affect on our personal checking account balances.

Cowardice, cloaked in arrogance and concealed behind self-assured brilliance, charts a troubled path; one which appears circular, where constant motion deceptively passes for progress. Progress towards what, we disagree, though our enemies do not, as they laugh.

Many say it will take another catastrophic attack to bring us to our collective senses. But it will likely not come. For, if al-Qaeda (et al) is smart - and they are - they will leave us alone on our own soil while we rip ourselves apart. No explosives, no bombs, no weapons of war required. We are, after all, suddenly and finally waging their centuries-long war upon ourselves. Brilliantly.

We allow ourselves to be told that we are what is wrong with the world; torturous, greedy, destructive, with disregard for the poorest and bitter intolerance for anyone not like us. We Balkanize our society and point fingers at each other, laying these same charges against one domestic group or another with the venom and aggression once reserved for distant, oppressive enemies.

Can we awaken from our own self-destructive slumber? The decisive war is not in Iraq, nor Afghanistan, nor Pakistan or any other distant place where we perceive our enemies to be. The decisive battle is right here, from Maine to San Diego, from St. Louis to Atlanta.

If we are incapable of rediscovering that which Constitutes us and what distinguishes America form every other nation on this planet, and acknowledging that America, her people, our liberty and our unequaled charity are indeed good and our values just, then what does Iraq or Afghanistan matter?

Can we truly identify that which we are defending? For if we cannot, we are not. We are simply preserving soil and borders, protecting cities and people - that which can be found anywhere else on this planet.

What will America be, what will she look like when our children are thrust at the helm? Will they write that we defended her, or will they write that we devoured and discarded her? This, not al-Qaeda or the War on Terror, keeps me up at night.

For we can defeat al-Qaeda and yet have defended nothing at all in the long, painful process. And our children will be compelled to write of us, ''You had these opportunities, America. You didn't do anything."

SteveSteve Schippert http://ThreatsWatch.org/ http://tank.nationalreview.com/

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/45642.html


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; belongsinchat; binladen; bloggersandpersonal; freedom; guantanamo; iraq; islam; liberty; missinglink; mohammedanism; quaeda; unverifiable; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 07/27/2008 7:41:43 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET
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To: USMCVIETVET

“beseech” ??


2 posted on 07/27/2008 7:43:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: USMCVIETVET

Good’n USMCV...

Only qualifier...Our FBI friend sees Al-Qaieda behind the Dim-Rep frackas....I give ALL the credit to Carter/Clinton!


3 posted on 07/27/2008 7:45:36 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: USMCVIETVET

Good points. Don’t the great civilizations crumble from within?


4 posted on 07/27/2008 7:48:32 AM PDT by tips up
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To: USMCVIETVET
Clinton failed to go after Bin LAden...viewed it as a criminal matter despite all evidence to the contrary.

Bush has gone after Al Quida and the terrorists and has severally injured their ability to attack, particularly here in the US and slaughtered tens and hundreds of thousands of them, including amongst their top leadership.

Obama wants it back to a criminal activity and would unilaterally surrender and retreat in one theater while assuring us he will step up to the plate in another theater...which theater (Afgjhanistan) OBTW, when it counted and he was in the Senate, he voted to defund.

So, it is likely, when it counts and he is not simply "campaigning" he will revert to his true ideology and that of his ernest left-wing anti-American supporters and retreat and lose there as well.

McCain's defended and pushed a strategy that has won in Iraqq and will win in Aghanistan, and will go after Al Quida and will continue taking the fight to them. There is no doubt about that and they fear him.

The fact that these enemy terrorist groups all want Obama to win should be enough for any sane American in their decision between the two.

CHOOSING THE NEXT PRESIDENT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

5 posted on 07/27/2008 7:54:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Mr. K

http://www.merriam-webster.com


6 posted on 07/27/2008 7:54:27 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: tips up; Fred Nerks; USF; FARS
Can we awaken from our own self-destructive slumber? The decisive war is not in Iraq, nor Afghanistan, nor Pakistan or any other distant place where we perceive our enemies to be. The decisive battle is right here, from Maine to San Diego, from St. Louis to Atlanta.

The enemy within!

A must read to see the future that awaits us! Yes, it is an old article, but VERY powerful!

Message from a Time Traveler

7 posted on 07/27/2008 8:06:20 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: kalee

for later reading


8 posted on 07/27/2008 8:08:52 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Jeff Head

CLINTON'S FAULT!


9 posted on 07/27/2008 8:12:08 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Mr. K

We know he is series, for he is not using contractions. Truly.


10 posted on 07/27/2008 8:12:42 AM PDT by martin_fierro (FREE LAZZY, YOU BASTARDS!)
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To: bert
...and if given the chance, Barack Hussein Obama will make those terrible mistakes worse by an order of magnitude.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

11 posted on 07/27/2008 8:15:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: USMCVIETVET
http://threatswatch.org/
12 posted on 07/27/2008 8:20:10 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Jeff Head; SoConPubbie; rabscuttle385
McCain's defended and pushed a strategy that has won in Iraqq and will win in Aghanistan, and will go after Al Quida and will continue taking the fight to them. There is no doubt about that and they fear him.

The fact that these enemy terrorist groups all want Obama to win should be enough for any sane American in their decision between the two.

Sadly, I feel that is not the case. There are too many against McCain, who are too wrapped in their definition of ideological purity, to see the coming danger.

13 posted on 07/27/2008 8:21:16 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jan in Colorado

The three words?

“Barack Hussein Obama”, maybe?

(Altough I’m still holding out for “XXXXX Children’s Hospital”, bloody murder of sick, defenseless children better matches their MO)


14 posted on 07/27/2008 8:28:01 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: USMCVIETVET

Wow! What a great line:” A selfish society incapable of sacrifice is equally incapable of self-defense. “

I think that says it all.


15 posted on 07/27/2008 8:35:00 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: USMCVIETVET
Another of the scores of hundreds of righteous rants since 9/11/01. Go and share with liberal family and friends (puke) and wonder why it will be as ineffective as all the rest have been.

There is nothing new here, nothing everyone right, left, and center, doesn't know and hasn't known. Words don't work against the enemies within i.e., the treasonous liars, words fuel our enemies.

They aren't shooting at us yet so we can't shoot them. Shunning.. withholding familial and societal support is the best we can do now. And it works.

Bad people tell lies, foolish people believe them, weak people join the crowd, and consequences ensue. Good people who befriend the bad people who tell lies are the new liars.


16 posted on 07/27/2008 9:38:11 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: null and void
Hey null!

WOW...if the three words are Barack Husein Obama that really would be something, since the article was written April 1, 2006!

I have been waiting years to find out what the three words are...still haven't given up!

17 posted on 07/27/2008 2:39:08 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: jan in Colorado

They can’t be the three words. That name would have scarcely caused any missing sleep in 2006.

It’s been gnawing at me too...


18 posted on 07/27/2008 3:05:07 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void
They can’t be the three words

I knew you were just kidding.

However, if this impostor gets in the White House, what the Time Traveler says will happen, will happen even sooner than I ever expected.

How can so many Americans be so uninformed?

Oh, that's right, public education, liberal indoctrination in colleges all across this country, and the ENEMEDIA!

Have you seen this thread?

Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach 'Change'

Read it. It's short, and it's powerful!

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status.

Yes, Castro brought change. Is that really what we want here?

19 posted on 07/27/2008 3:36:19 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Ping regarding the current crisis...


20 posted on 07/27/2008 5:48:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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